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Is using ultrabeat frowned upon? I see most producers use a Wav sample for their drum sounds?

Ultrabeat is a fantastic bit of kit. Synthesising drum hits is something people don't do enough of any more. You can load wavs into it as well so that shouldn't be an issue either.

As for what other producers do - don't worry about it; work on your own sound.

What may be frowned upon would be the use of ultrabeat kits and pre-programmed patterns with no processing / editing at all in your tunes

Ultrabeat is the hit (no pun intended). Being able to vary velocities etc makes for far easier drum programming. Also when you're not feeling creative you make interesting percussion kits. I normally use a couple of separate ultrabeats, an EXS24 for kicks, and snares in plain old audio for some reason.

Only reason I don't use ultrabeat that much any more is that I like using breaks and also you can use any audio track as source for side chaining.

Fair enough. Whenever I use breaks shit just tends to be too busy for my liking. Also not finding 140BPM that condusive to using breaks. But will get into them one day. How do you use them in logic? Just as audio files?

For my dubstep stuff I'll choose a fairly simple break (nothing busy like the amen and don't timestretch it) then I'll take a couple of kicks from it, a couple of heavy snares, a few high hats and a few ghost snares then make my own rhythm from them. If you chop them loosely you can introduce some groove to your drums. But yeah I dump them into separate audio tracks do some processing and bus em together.

I've been making loadsa dnb recently and it doesn't feel right unless the top part of the arrange page is lots of sliced audio files, just a personal preference.

green plan wrote:Fair enough. Whenever I use breaks shit just tends to be too busy for my liking. Also not finding 140BPM that condusive to using breaks. But will get into them one day. How do you use them in logic? Just as audio files?

that for more simple looped breaks, or slice to EXS for rearranging hits, sometimes I'll use REX files in EXS24 too

The only frowning involved with Ultrabeat is that which results from squinting to read the fucking minuscule parameters

Ah that's good then...
It really pisses me off how little I know about all this production shit, like I see everyone on this forum talking about bare different shit, what's the best way to learn what the hell you're on about? I'd love to understand tha Reso Q&A properly hahaha

Wrigzilla wrote:Only reason I don't use ultrabeat that much any more is that I like using breaks and also you can use any audio track as source for side chaining.

You can use Ultra beat as a side chain source, just bus it...

wirez wrote:

Wrigzilla wrote:Only reason I don't use ultrabeat that much any more is that I like using breaks and also you can use any audio track as source for side chaining.

You can use Ultra beat as a side chain source, just bus it...

I know, but I already use a gazillion buses in my productions, I hate opening a project and having to spend 10 mins working out what's going on with the signal flow.

Used to use it a bit before I got the NI Komplete, its got everything you want and more, its got a lot features that Battery doesn't have, the built in drum synth is a great idea as well. The one thing I don't like about it is the GUI, I like Battery cause its quick and easy to use.

Dont enjoy ultrabeat. It sound too 'soft' to me. i dont know. I just prefer using battery and at times audio

so i recently returned to logic as my main daw from years of enjoying ableton. i just became so tired of seeing ableton's damn "submit a bug report" screen after its numerous and almost endless crashes. i heard somewhere that ultrabeat cuts the first few ms's off drag n drop samples... i am going to go search for a link to this debate. apparently it is a known bug. anyone else heard this? can you clarify? maybe that is why your hits are sounding soft inside UB, depone? do people who use battery have this problem at all? i'm really against audio for drums, until i need to bounce for any reason. cheers and thanks for replies.

frowned upon? thats shocking! its awesome!


that said.. I also layer my drum patterns with one-shots in the audio channels


love how quick you can work with step sequencers

ultrabeat is definitely not frowned upon.

wack tunes are frowned upon. tools are tools.