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Djing Vinyl
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 1:49 am
by Ampton
Hey guys im wanting to get into vinyl and im kinda at beginner/intermediate level...my budget is 1600.
'Im already kinda soled on technics, but open to suggestions. 2 Decks, Mixer, Monitors etc and whatever else you think would be useful. Thanks.
Re: Djing Vinyl
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 2:01 am
by deadly_habit
2nd hand techs and a simple 2 chan battle mixer, some good headphones and then spend on wax and practice, practice practice
oh and practice more
if ya snipe ebay enough you can get some quality lot deals too
just search "genre" lot
also get some shit you don't dig or you think is difficult and it will come easier
Re: Djing Vinyl
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 3:17 am
by ninjadog
What deadly said, plus a good cart. I really like the sure m-477. Some of your choices might be a little different if you only want to mix or if you plan to scratch.
To expand a bit on the mixer you want to have a curve adjust knob, and a cross fader that is replaceable, then youll be good for years. If you don't mind used you should be able to find a good Vestax, other wise a Numark is an alright budget choice.
Don't forget your slipmats, and I would also recommend some butter rugs if your gonna scratch.
Re: Djing Vinyl
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 10:52 am
by back2onett
I know most people will tell you to get technics but see if you can get some KAM DDX5000s around a lot cheaper, more powerful, good build quality and it comes with adjustable start/brake time which is kind of cool. They've been discontinued but you should be able to find them around still
Re: Djing Vinyl
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 8:33 pm
by CBK81
It's already been mentioned, but your equipment needs are dependent on if you are going to scratch or just mix, or both.
Re: Djing Vinyl
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 9:48 pm
by back2onett
CBK81 wrote:It's already been mentioned, but your equipment needs are dependent on if you are going to scratch or just mix, or both.
true but it becomes less of an issue the further up the price range you go
Re: Djing Vinyl
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 10:26 pm
by CBK81
To an extent that's true. If you want to do both, I would go 2 1200s, 2 shure m447s for the cartridges and a rane ttm 56 for the mixer. Then buy you a kaos pad or something to run effects like that because the 56 mixer has effects sends, but no effects. To me, you get a great mixer that lasts forever (almost literally) and the most long lasting and proven turntables as well. The shure needles aren't the best sounding, but if you ever want to think about scratching, they are pretty much a must have item.
Re: Djing Vinyl
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 10:37 pm
by deadly_habit
back2onett wrote:CBK81 wrote:It's already been mentioned, but your equipment needs are dependent on if you are going to scratch or just mix, or both.
true but it becomes less of an issue the further up the price range you go
yep, back when i was into scratching is when i sold my techs for my stanton str8 150 decks and even just basic mixing i love em more than my techs
the m447 carts are great, seen em caned to death by club djs, scratch djs etc. if you wanna get a better needle get the white labels. ortofons cut into your vinyl and degrade it alot more despite how many people use em or ease of setup. stanton needles in the higher range sound amazing. also keep in mind the way you setup your cart will affect needle wear and tracking. forget the exact degrees to it, but most shure cart packs come with the manual that show the angle for best tracking vs just a straight setup.
and believe me on those older used vinyl you eventually will get it helps with cueing em up and backspins
Re: Djing Vinyl
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 2:33 am
by Basic A
back2onett wrote:I know most people will tell you to get technics but see if you can get some KAM DDX5000s around a lot cheaper, more powerful, good build quality and it comes with adjustable start/brake time which is kind of cool. They've been discontinued but you should be able to find them around still
See man people arent recommending techs cause the motors and drive system feel perfect, rather because they ARENT perfect. you feel a big difference going from deck to deck, and if what you perform on feels more responsive then a tech, obviously, youll have some problems when you get on a stock club system. Bullshit logic I know, but you gotta skint yourself so you dont regret it later.
Re: Djing Vinyl
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 3:22 am
by samurai
i sold my techs for numark tt500s. but the stanton str8s are dope too and built like a tank.
ps vinyl is dead.
Re: Djing Vinyl
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 4:34 am
by ninjadog
samurai wrote:i sold my techs for numark tt500s. but the stanton str8s are dope too and built like a tank.
ps vinyl is dead.
I used to love my TT500, but then the pitch fader died for no reason. But I wanted to sell mine and get 1200's for the longest time, but I'm way more into scratching and I would rather have the str8 150 now. My dream mixer would be the Rane TTM 57SL hands down. May as well enjoy the best of both worlds and control digital like vinyl.
Re: Djing Vinyl
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 5:47 am
by CBK81
I've said it before on here on another thread, tech 1200s are a proven deck. The first pair I ever bought was at a pawn shop in 1991, and guess what... they still work perfect. Only thing I've ever had to do is replace the rca cables on em.
I still prefer vinyl for scratching the basic ahh and fresh sounds tho. Other than that, it's serato all the way.
I always say to buy the best because if you buy cheaper, you will end up buying the best in the end. If you decide that this isn't for you, then you can resell good equipment with very limited income lost. Cheap shit doesn't hold it's value like good equipment does. Just my personal opinion.
Re: Djing Vinyl
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 7:14 am
by cutlaseer
Hey guys, kinda new to the whole serato thing. Is the denon dnx120 or vestax 05 pro 2( or any 05 pro model) any good for serato? Im not after anything to expensive, coz it's primarily for home use/the odd outing here and there