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http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/ma ... found-dead

The bassist of the cult US metal group Slipknot was found dead in a hotel room today, police said.

Paul Gray, 38, was found by a hotel employee at the Town Plaza hotel in Urbandale, a suburb of Des Moines, Iowa. An autopsy is planned for tomorrow. The death is not being treated as suspicious.

good band

will they replace him or call it a day do you reckon? wouldn't surpirse me if it was an accidental overdose.

AntlionUK wrote:will they replace him or call it a day do you reckon? wouldn't surpirse me if it was an accidental overdose.

dont think they'll need to replace they've already got more than enough members

RIP.

I loved Slipknot when I was younger, listening to them and thinking I was listening to the real deal. I'm glad I moved on quickly though.

moved on to who?
to me they are the real deal, as far as it comes to metal(but tbh honest i dont listen to much)...
which is why this is tragic...

As for metal, they are very much NOT the real deal. Doesn't mean it's bad to like them though.

Great bass player..... much admired by his peers (bass player of 15 years here)

Too young at 38. RIP

tyson wrote:As for metal, they are very much NOT the real deal. Doesn't mean it's bad to like them though.

How are they not the real deal? Or are you just being snobby?

stappard wrote:

tyson wrote:As for metal, they are very much NOT the real deal. Doesn't mean it's bad to like them though.

How are they not the real deal? Or are you just being snobby?

I didnt really like the whole mask's gimmick. But as far as musicianship, especially the drummer (Joey is probably in the top 5 drummers on the planet) and guitarists, they are most certainly the real deal.

JFK wrote:Joey is probably in the top 5 overrated drummers on the planet

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still tho its well sad Paul died, i used to be a huge slipknot fan when i was younger, joey jordison however is not in the top 5 drummers on the planet tho, nowhere near (tho he is still very good)

my top 5 metal drummers:
1 bobby jarzombek (spastic ink)
2 blake richardson (between the buried and me)
3 dan foord (sikth)
4 derek roddy (hate eternal)
5 alexandre pelletier (despised icon)

particle-jim wrote: my top 5 metal drummers:
1 bobby jarzombek (spastic ink)

I'd never heard of bobby jarzombek before so I had a quick look on youtube. not my style but amazing drummer, dig the open-handed style.


Best-drummer rankings are always difficult though because the style varies so much across genres. I mean, you can't really compare Mike Portnoy with Jimmy Cobb, can you.

stappard wrote:Best-drummer rankings are always difficult though because the style varies so much across genres.

thats why i specified metal drummers, if i was doing drummers across all genres it would take me years and most of my choices would probs b controversial

mainly tho i just wanted to point out that joey jordison doesnt even come close to being in the top 5

particle-jim wrote:

stappard wrote:Best-drummer rankings are always difficult though because the style varies so much across genres.

thats why i specified metal drummers, if i was doing drummers across all genres it would take me years and most of my choices would probs b controversial

mainly tho i just wanted to point out that joey jordison doesnt even come close to being in the top 5

Yeah, well, thats just like.... your opinion man.

JFK wrote:

particle-jim wrote:

stappard wrote:Best-drummer rankings are always difficult though because the style varies so much across genres.

thats why i specified metal drummers, if i was doing drummers across all genres it would take me years and most of my choices would probs b controversial

mainly tho i just wanted to point out that joey jordison doesnt even come close to being in the top 5

Yeah, well, thats just like.... your opinion man.

yes it is my opinion, but considering i've been playing drums since i was 8 years old and that i used to be in a metal band, i think my opinion on metal drummers holds somewhat more gravitas

I'm honestly not trying to argue or be snobby but I suppose slipknot could be considered metal in the same vein as disturbed, korn, mudvayne, etc but I think that's all hard rock made to sell records. I'm sure that wasn't their intent from the start but that's all they have been for 10 years now. Joey Jordison is a decent drummer overall but well below the metal average. Same goes for the two guitarists. Why do they have a dj and a samples guy? Why have three drummers if the one is SO talented? I guess I can't really comment on the masks because black metal does the same thing and that IS metal...

Imo metal can be anything from Led Zeppelin to Cannibal Corpse but it's always about the music. Don't let the ridiculous band names and song titles fool you, many death metal musicians are among the best musicians in the world and when people compare slipknot to them I can't help but think that those people aren't serious metal fans. I know many metal fans that like slipknot and they'd be the first to tell you that it isn't metal. What would you say if you were talking about dubstep and someone chimed in saying the new rusko album is the real deal? Usually you have to just let that person figure it out on their own.

Sorry about the rant or possibly sounding "elitist." I'm seriously not trying to put anyone down including slipknot. BTW, I love the crowd here, everyone seems like good people.

particle-jim wrote:

JFK wrote:Joey is probably in the top 5 overrated drummers on the planet

fixed

still tho its well sad Paul died, i used to be a huge slipknot fan when i was younger, joey jordison however is not in the top 5 drummers on the planet tho, nowhere near (tho he is still very good)

my top 5 metal drummers:
1 bobby jarzombek (spastic ink)
2 blake richardson (between the buried and me)
3 dan foord (sikth)
4 derek roddy (hate eternal)
5 alexandre pelletier (despised icon)

That Sikth drummer is ridiculously good and Spastic Ink are the most musically ridiculous band I've ever heard (in a good way).

this thread has turned into a proper snoooooze fest. go back to playing wow pls guys