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Sine shapers and parabolic shapers turned about halfway with the same LFO thats linked to the cutoff work like a charm, I managed to get some interesting sounds out of it.

Also, an alternative to the traditional sine shaped LFO:
A square shaped LFO, but heres the catch:the little number you pull up and down to adjust the lfo depth, pull it fully DOWN so it goes backwards. (kinda hard to explain, you'll get it eventually)

Hope it helped.

so you're suggesting that attaching the lfo to filter cut-off might produce a wobble, and that changing the shape of the lfo might alter the qualities of the wobble?

truly amazing.

Yeah I've been getting some pretty good results using the sine and parabolic shapers as well, although too much and it just mangles the sound up completely!

@ Recessive Trait: give the man a chance, he's only trying to give a couple of tips to people using massive

Recessive Trait wrote:so you're suggesting that attaching the lfo to filter cut-off might produce a wobble, and that changing the shape of the lfo might alter the qualities of the wobble?

truly amazing.

I don't think you get what i mean...
And yes, changing the shape of the lfo alters the sound COMPLETELY.
Im just trying to fucking help people, don't be so negative about it.

Recessive Trait wrote:so you're suggesting that attaching the lfo to filter cut-off might produce a wobble, and that changing the shape of the lfo might alter the qualities of the wobble?

truly amazing.

Why don't you try some productive posts then?

ResetTheAtari wrote:

Recessive Trait wrote:so you're suggesting that attaching the lfo to filter cut-off might produce a wobble, and that changing the shape of the lfo might alter the qualities of the wobble?

truly amazing.

Why don't you try some productive posts then?

Thank you.
Someone who actually takes things seriously for once instead of thinking every newbie that posts is a "OMG gimme datsik sounds nao" type of guy.

Recessive Trait wrote:so you're suggesting that attaching the lfo to filter cut-off might produce a wobble, and that changing the shape of the lfo might alter the qualities of the wobble?

truly amazing.

ALWAYS eager to shoot people down... even if this wasnt of any help to you, or to many of us who already know this stuff, maybe it was of help to those who come on here for tips on how to use massive and how to make it wobble

been fuckin with sine shapers for years... that distortion unit in rebirth is what started me! these days i make bubbly squishy dubstep with them

wub wub wub

I like making my own noises but thanks for this anyways

Subside wrote:I like making my own noises but thanks for this anyways

No problem, thats how I found it out, fucking with random inserts and linking random things together!

Recessive Trait wrote:so you're suggesting that attaching the lfo to filter cut-off might produce a wobble, and that changing the shape of the lfo might alter the qualities of the wobble?

No, he said stick the lfo on the sine shaper.

noobs flaming veterans good job on giving out tips, people always moan at newb posters for asking questions yet when one comes along offering advice still moaning - good work mate, been fucking about with shapers for months but never thought about banging an LFO on their, hmm could be good, will try this one!!

Yeah, this is a legitimate way to get interesting wobbles..

My favourite is a slowish attack on the wobble with a trangle wave pushed to the end of the right hand side (so the peak is just before the end of the screen)

You get a nice "jolting" vibe.

My Massive tip!

Once you make a sound, take the 1 macro knob and assign it to some things you think might be interesting and then slowly tweak it round. Really useful for when you're sound isnt quite what you're looking for, and I often find a better sound than before by tweaking it

LFO 5> Half sine/Half any "spikey" waveshape (play about with the position of the sine; Sliding it along, etc...) at a 5/1 cycle then link to the Carbon waveform's position, shallow depth at around 11 O'clock and add a touch of phaser and link another lfo to the pan at an unsynced rate
Also sounds nice if you high pass it and add some chorus

I don't think the "automate Carbon wave with an lfo" thing is much of a secret, but who knows? Got me excited first tiem I stumbled upon it

can you post a .ksd patch of this, I think I got close to what you are referring to but would like to check it. thx!

yamaz wrote:can you post a .ksd patch of this, I think I got close to what you are referring to but would like to check it. thx!

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L753K6JI

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7G1TCU1W

Play 'em on the lower octaves. They've got some nice movement to them... Dunno if they're useable or not, mind

narcissus wrote:been fuckin with sine shapers for years... that distortion unit in rebirth is what started me! these days i make bubbly squishy dubstep with them

u cool bro... that distortion unit in rebirth is fuckin SEXXXXXXXXXXY.... what is it???? is it just a sine shaper???

You can get some nice sounds by linking your cutoff frequency to other sound changing parameters as well. Noise filters, phasers, Intensity on the OSC as well as wave positions, also you get some pretty cool stuff by automating the FX knobs with LFOs as well. Use them on the dimension expander wet/dry, Flanger high shelf/low shelf/boost. Also in the Phaser there's a rate knob and if you automate that you can get another type of wobble out of it. Also, underneath the box where you sync your LFOs and stuff to, if you click that - you can get a change in how the LFO oscilates.

Just go through every parameter and see how it effects the sound and try to remember all those parameters that change how the sound comes out and go back to them with LFOs, ADSR, and especially the performer and Stepper. You can get some really awesome movements in your sound with the performer. You get a hell of a lot more control over your wobbles with it, rather than being limited to set LFO rates. I just wish I could afford this damn VSTi so I could allow myself to actually start using it in my projects.