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MTV: Is Dubstep Taking Grime FWD>>?
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:24 am
by JPGRIME
I wrote this article on what seems to be a growing trend with grime MCs spitting over dubstep beats nowadays.
What are your thoughts on the two sounds mixing?
http://www.mtv.co.uk/music/urban/230134 ... -grime-fwd
Re: MTV: Is Dubstep Taking Grime FWD>>?
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:29 am
by spydee
the odd track here and there is cool, but not too keen on it becoming to the point where the whole grime scene suddnely becomes some sub genre of dubstep.
Re: MTV: Is Dubstep Taking Grime FWD>>?
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:38 am
by skotyb
Dubstep with Grime mc's spitting over it constantly defeats the point in dubstep.
Not to mention it's very annoying.
Re: MTV: Is Dubstep Taking Grime FWD>>?
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:56 am
by geistgurn
All these MTV articles are shit.
To answer your question. NO.
Stop trying to categorize and just appreciate good bars.
Re: MTV: Is Dubstep Taking Grime FWD>>?
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:57 am
by geistgurn
skotyb wrote:Dubstep with Grime mc's spitting over it constantly defeats the point in dubstep.
Not to mention it's very annoying.
Please enlighten me. What is the 'point' in dubstep?

Re: MTV: Is Dubstep Taking Grime FWD>>?
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:59 am
by twentyOneDummies
I love grime tunes in my dubstep mixes, love dubstep influence in my grime and have no idea why anyone would feel the need to come up with a name for stuff that mixes both considering this is nothing new...
Re: MTV: Is Dubstep Taking Grime FWD>>?
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:01 pm
by cb8051
So with this growing trend, surely there's a name that we can call it?
Why??!
Re: MTV: Is Dubstep Taking Grime FWD>>?
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:08 pm
by JPGRIME
twentyOneDummies wrote:I love grime tunes in my dubstep mixes, love dubstep influence in my grime and have no idea why anyone would feel the need to come up with a name for stuff that mixes both considering this is nothing new...
The name calling thing was just a bit of a sly dig at all the other names people have tried to certain sounds within the underground music scene.
I just wanted to know what the dubstep fans thought about the sounds mixing. I think it works, but I'm a grime and dubstep fan, but for those who don't like grime, it may not be the same case.
Re: MTV: Is Dubstep Taking Grime FWD>>?
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:16 pm
by geistgurn
JPGRIME wrote:twentyOneDummies wrote:I love grime tunes in my dubstep mixes, love dubstep influence in my grime and have no idea why anyone would feel the need to come up with a name for stuff that mixes both considering this is nothing new...
The name calling thing was just a bit of a sly dig at all the other names people have tried to certain sounds within the underground music scene.
I just wanted to know what the dubstep fans thought about the sounds mixing. I think it works, but I'm a grime and dubstep fan, but for those who don't like grime, it may not be the same case.
yeeeeeeeeah. of course.

Re: MTV: Is Dubstep Taking Grime FWD>>?
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:18 pm
by slackk
spydee wrote:the odd track here and there is cool, but not too keen on it becoming to the point where the whole grime scene suddnely becomes some sub genre of dubstep.
It's all garage anyway.
Re: MTV: Is Dubstep Taking Grime FWD>>?
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:26 pm
by JPGRIME
slackk wrote:spydee wrote:the odd track here and there is cool, but not too keen on it becoming to the point where the whole grime scene suddnely becomes some sub genre of dubstep.
It's all garage anyway.
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Re: MTV: Is Dubstep Taking Grime FWD>>?
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:45 pm
by westos
grime and dubstep started off side by side, split and have come back together... I don't listen to much dubstep these days but grime and dubstep is nothing that new.
Re: MTV: Is Dubstep Taking Grime FWD>>?
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:55 pm
by damu
you'd think if someone had a job working for MTV they would spend a lot more time actually listening to and researching music.
writing an article about grime and talking about dizzee rascal and chipmunk is the equivalent of writing an article about the state of drum and bass that only refers to prodigy and chase & status or something.
"grimestep"?!?! -GET OUT!
pointless article
Re: MTV: Is Dubstep Taking Grime FWD>>?
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:12 pm
by apmje
A post about an underground music scene posted on MTV?
Contradiction or what!?
Defies the whole point.
EDIT: I like Left the Room.
Re: MTV: Is Dubstep Taking Grime FWD>>?
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:06 pm
by spydee
slackk wrote:spydee wrote:the odd track here and there is cool, but not too keen on it becoming to the point where the whole grime scene suddnely becomes some sub genre of dubstep.
It's all garage anyway.
ye but when people start saying shit like "grimestep"...no thanks.
also the vocal side of dubstep generally is fine the way it is, with there being a small number of tunes with vocals that can be used effectively.
if we had a sudden influx of every grime mc and his dog starting to vocal dubstep tracks and have mixes with mostly vocals, etc....essentially having a sub-scene which is vocal orientated....thats what im not keen on.
Re: MTV: Is Dubstep Taking Grime FWD>>?
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:07 pm
by JPGRIME
Thanks for all the feedback. It's intereting actually, the grime fans that read this article liked it, because it something that seems to be growing and they like the mix of sounds, but the dubstep fans don't seem to be appreciating the mix that much.
Oh and I know it's been around for a long time and that was highlighted in the article, Newham Generals are the dons.
Re: MTV: Is Dubstep Taking Grime FWD>>?
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:13 pm
by Sharmaji
DMZ & Kode 9 on the Rephlex comps in 2005... this is not a new thing, and something that i'd figure people would know to take as just part of the sound.
as far as the MTV article goes, at least this one was joystep-free.
Re: MTV: Is Dubstep Taking Grime FWD>>?
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:40 pm
by stappard
Sharmaji wrote:DMZ & Kode 9 on the Rephlex comps in 2005... this is not a new thing, and something that i'd figure people would know to take as just part of the sound.
as far as the MTV article goes, at least this one was joystep-free.
this one had GRUBSTEP
Re: MTV: Is Dubstep Taking Grime FWD>>?
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:03 pm
by herbalicious
Is it new? Slaughter Mobb/Flowdan/Newham Gens....Not to mention the production of the likes of Plastician & Mark One....
(For me anyway) Grime and Dubstep go hand in hand. They have always run alongside each other intertwining regularly...I think it's just as Dubsteps profile gets higher, even more MC's will jump on the more popular tracks...
Re: MTV: Is Dubstep Taking Grime FWD>>?
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:43 pm
by fractal
geistgurn wrote:skotyb wrote:Dubstep with Grime mc's spitting over it constantly defeats the point in dubstep.
Not to mention it's very annoying.
Please enlighten me. What is the 'point' in dubstep?

I think he's referring to the fact that the dub in dubstep means instrumental version... So to fill it back up with vocals seems silly. I do enjoy the occasional vocal, but far and few between please, imho
Besides, we all know that grubstep is dime made properly
