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The Amen Break

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:46 am
by Colourless
Someone, please, help me understand what the structure of a typical amen break is, and also if anyone knows of any 1960 style drum kits available for redrum, id be more than greatful.

Re: The Amen Break

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:54 am
by mks
What are you trying to do? If you are working with an amen, I would chop that thing up and put it in your sampler. I see that you are on reason, you would be better off putting that thing in the nn-xt or whatever it is in reason. On redrum, that would be good for using the individual hits, but to get the flow, use sections of the break in your sampler.

Re: The Amen Break

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:55 am
by deadly_habit

Re: The Amen Break

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:34 am
by wormcode
Colourless wrote:Someone, please, help me understand what the structure of a typical amen break is
http://www.simonv.com/tutorials/drum_patterns.php

Re: The Amen Break

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:06 am
by rubiconguava
yeh, cut it up in recycle, load it into your nnxt with each hit on a different key but still in the right order. Then load uip the entire break in rex, send it to track and then match the rex copy of it witht he midi notes on the nnxt. Once you have it sounding normal you can start fiddling round with it to make it more interesting. I dont use reason anymore, but this was the most effefctive way i found for dealing with breaks, if your in the nnxt its then very easy to reverse hits etc.

Re: The Amen Break

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:40 am
by Nacklewicket
easiest way to handle the amen break in fl studio, is to just load the whole amen sample into the slicex and pow you got all the hits on different notes still in the right order and you can rearrange and manage it any way you want cudnt be easier

Re: The Amen Break

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:51 pm
by tripaddict
download > filter > chop > re-sequence

search for a track called amen my brother by the winstons ;)

or re-sample some old jungle amens :D

Re: The Amen Break

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:29 pm
by Brisance

Re: The Amen Break

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:00 am
by Ithiriul
Is it just me or is the last thing we need more Amen breaks

Re: The Amen Break

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:00 am
by ninjadog
Ithiriul wrote:Is it just me or is the last thing we need more Amen breaks
:z: [break]

Re: The Amen Break

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:25 am
by JFK
Ithiriul wrote:Is it just me or is the last thing we need more Amen breaks
Used on its own yeah. But chopped up and messed about with it has endless potential still.

Re: The Amen Break

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:38 am
by bob villain
JFK wrote:
Ithiriul wrote:Is it just me or is the last thing we need more Amen breaks
Used on its own yeah. But chopped up and messed about with it has endless potential still.
totally agree. Love hearing amens in a new way, even just one hit. Then I like spotting them when they're hidden, like ooh amen crash right there

Re: The Amen Break

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:41 am
by JFK
bob villain wrote:
JFK wrote:
Ithiriul wrote:Is it just me or is the last thing we need more Amen breaks
Used on its own yeah. But chopped up and messed about with it has endless potential still.
totally agree. Love hearing amens in a new way, even just one hit. Then I like spotting them when they're hidden, like ooh amen crash right there
That is ridiculously geeky.

















I do exactly the same thing...... :)

Re: The Amen Break

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:51 pm
by kwami

Re: The Amen Break

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:24 pm
by sully_harmitage
thats a Think, not an Amen.
Those two + Funky Drummer = Holy Trinity of breaks.

Re: The Amen Break

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:37 pm
by step correct
How about getting it to go 70 bpm with no obvious pitch changes??
6blocc is good at this and I can't figure out how to make it sound right.
Somone told me chop it and then use the little shaker bits to fill in the empty spaces.

Re: The Amen Break

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:39 pm
by step correct
Oh and once you get it at 140 resample it and then just chop it into 3-5 bigger slices and try triggering those. Cool way to let the break retain it's integrity.. try triggering it on the snare... etc.

Re: The Amen Break

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:49 pm
by fassyman
sully.harmitage wrote:thats a Think, not an Amen.
Those two + Funky Drummer = Holy Trinity of breaks.
tru dat

Re: The Amen Break

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:11 pm
by Bipolar
Look for Dr.Rex files of Amen Original/Breaks on the internet, theres hundreds and thousands out there,

Find one you like and DL it, Dr.Rex files are great becuase theve already been cut in recycle, now you can open a Redrum and load the Hits in individualy.

GL

Re: The Amen Break

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:44 pm
by ENNO
Downlink is crazy for the amen breaks....give some of his tracks a listen. Theres a good use in the swagga remix!!