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I just made a listing of all natural minor scales triads and thought some of you who also just began learning music theory may appreciate it.
The only thing that may be wrong is that I always think of black keys as "#" and I know sometimes you have to think "b". So the chords are correct but the spelling may not be 100% accurate.
If someone wants to correct it, I'd gladly re-up that.

I'll do the melodic & harmonic minor scales in the next few days.
Perhaps the major scales too even tho I don't think I'll ever use them

Natural Minor Scales Triads
Harmonic Minor Scales Triads

Fuck yeah dude. I will definitely use this as a reference. Looks like you put some time into this.

Haha just randomly had open office installed

yo bro, thanks for this. What kind of document is this. Could you save it out just as a txt file?

nowaysj wrote:yo bro, thanks for this. What kind of document is this. Could you save it out just as a txt file?

nah, it's a spreadsheet so .txt wouldn't work

Here's a PDF though
http://phiik.com/Natural%20Minor%20Triads.pdf

thanks cuz!! this is mean as.
!!chea

Thanks for the conversion. Unfortunately, I don't understand this as well as I thought I would have. We think about this later.

nowaysj wrote:Thanks for the conversion. Unfortunately, I don't understand this as well as I thought I would have. We think about this later.

Triads are 3 notes-chords (the most basic chords for a given scale).
For each scale, for instance A (A, B, C, D, E, F, G), there are 7 triads to use for chord progressions (A C E, B D F, C E G, etc).
They are minor if the third is minor (3 semi-tones above the root note), major if the third is major (4 semi-tones), diminished when there are only 3 semi-tones above the third.
Knowing which one is minor or major may help to build your chord progression but you may also just do it by ear.
For the record, the i, iv & v chords are respectively called tonic, subdominant & dominant chords.
You can practice chord progression by playing different combinations and see which sound good to you.

Also, if you consider the Root column, you'll notice it shows the keys used for the given scale, which is handy : you're sitting in front of your MIDI keyboard, the left hand will play the chord progression using the triads while the right hand will play the melody using these notes (or for instance, pads will make use of the triads and arpeggios the notes of the scale).

Like I said, I'm just learning so this may not be the most intelligible way to put it but hopefully it'll help you a little.

@ Phigure : well done for the pdf, I'll upload that instead.

Oh yeah and while we're at it, let's talk about chord inversion :
each triad can be played starting with the root, third or fifth so you're still playing the same chord but using different keys, which gives a different feel to it and more possibilities (perhaps more confusion too at first ).
For example, instead of playing A C E, you can play C E A or E A C and so on for each triad.

Really do appreciate it. Everything you just said makes perfect sense. Just when I was looking at that document... ah my tenuous grasp of this basic theory started to slip.

thank very much

appreciated so much

Glad you're enjoying it, I reckon that's very useful to me when working on melodies.
I updated the pdf with pictures of keyboards with all the notes for each scale. I find it much more convenient visually.

Think I generally work most of this out already by ear but having a document to quickly refer back to to check sure is gonna be helpful and make things a bit speedier. Cheers man

daft tnuc wrote:Glad you're enjoying it, I reckon that's very useful to me when working on melodies.
I updated the pdf with pictures of keyboards with all the notes for each scale. I find it much more convenient visually.

Nice one for this. Pictures def help me. Where is the PDF with the pics coz cant get the first link to open!

Cheers

I updated again since there was a mistake for the chord ii in the G# scale, make sure you get the right one.

boko91 wrote:

daft tnuc wrote:Glad you're enjoying it, I reckon that's very useful to me when working on melodies.
I updated the pdf with pictures of keyboards with all the notes for each scale. I find it much more convenient visually.

Nice one for this. Pictures def help me. Where is the PDF with the pics coz cant get the first link to open!

Cheers

The link in the 1st post seems to be working here. Maybe try right click + save as...

cheers for sharing this!

This is a very useful idea, I just noticed this after answering that harmonic minor question, i take it the HM triads are next on your agenda ?

Here's a quick tip for those looking to expand their melodic arsenal, a very easy one too. Use the modes of the Major scale (don't all cringe, the natural minor is actually a mode of the major scale). Here's how...

Each mode is actually just the notes of the major scale but with the root note shifted, for example the Aeolian (minor scale) mode is the sixth mode of the major scale, it's the same notes but starts on the 6th note as it's root. So if you just play the major scale but start at each of the different notes you will produce the following modes, all of which create their own moods (such as the melancholic natural minor). In order they are...

Ionian (major), Dorian, Phrygian (spanish/flamenco style), Lydian, Mixolydian (less cheesy major scale), Aeolian (minor), Locrian (evil and discordant), when using make sure you empahasize the new root/5th/7th rather than that of the major.

You can do the same process with the harmonic minor and produce the Arabic sounding Phrygian major scale by starting on the 3rd note of the harmonic minor. It's the same as the phrygian (spanish) scale but with an unflattened 3rd and it sounds pretty awesome.

EDIT : AFAIK if you start on C on a keyboard you can just play all the white notes, move up the next white note as your root and you are now in dorian mode (no black notes needed), perhaps a piano player can confirm this last bit (I am a guitar player)

hope someone finds this useful

bilsner wrote:This is a very useful idea, I just noticed this after answering that harmonic minor question, i take it the HM triads are next on your agenda ?

Here's a quick tip for those looking to expand their melodic arsenal, a very easy one too. Use the modes of the Major scale (don't all cringe, the natural minor is actually a mode of the major scale). Here's how...

Each mode is actually just the notes of the major scale but with the root note shifted, for example the Aeolian (minor scale) mode is the sixth mode of the major scale, it's the same notes but starts on the 6th note as it's root. So if you just play the major scale but start at each of the different notes you will produce the following modes, all of which create their own moods (such as the melancholic natural minor). In order they are...

Ionian (major), Dorian, Phrygian (spanish/flamenco style), Lydian, Mixolydian (less cheesy major scale), Aeolian (minor), Locrian (evil and discordant), when using make sure you empahasize the new root/5th/7th rather than that of the major.

You can do the same process with the harmonic minor and produce the Arabic sounding Phrygian major scale by starting on the 3rd note of the harmonic minor. It's the same as the phrygian (spanish) scale but with an unflattened 3rd and it sounds pretty awesome.

EDIT : AFAIK if you start on C on a keyboard you can just play all the white notes, move up the next white note as your root and you are now in dorian mode (no black notes needed), perhaps a piano player can confirm this last bit (I am a guitar player)

hope someone finds this useful

You said in that other thread you were no expert ?
Thanks for that, interesting read.

I just uploaded the harmonic minor scales triads in the first post.

Really appreciate you doing this defiantly helps me out quite bit because I know shit all about chords and such