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Hey doods.

Check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcKWJ19pFoY (What I'm talking about is at :06, :11 )

I'm trying to figure out how to make this little rhythmic kick variant that is common to a lot of gabber tracks. I'm thinking it's the same main kick with a resonant filter + bandpass on it or just boosting certain frequencies via EQ with a narrow Q. When I do that It doesn't really sound the same though...tends to lose a lot of body and punch. The closest I ever got was with Cubase's QuadraFuzz on the Rezchord setting but I'm not really sure what it's actually doing. Any ideas?

Yeah, bandpass or high pass with resonance can do this. Not that hard. I mostly highpass for this. Good example:



Sounds like highpass to my ears.

I'm curious about kicks like these:



1:28 and on



1:38 and on

Is it just the good ol' house trick where you side chain the kick with the bassline?

you guys are making me want to get myself booked for a hardstyle dj gig. stop tempting me, i'm trying to put that behind me!

for gabber kicks in general: DON'T take a drum sample and overdrive it. that's corny as fuck.
if you want those screechy gnarly kicks, take a square wave and assign a pitch envelope etc, it's explained in the thread recessive trait linked. feel free to add more oscillators with other waves and play around with effects, go crazy as fuck.
you can actually apply many techniques used for filth/bro/moustache-wobbles, iE resampling, comb-filtering, bitcrushing.
oh and you should definetly layer them, you don't want the low-end of your kick effected in the same way your nasty midrange gnarls are.

the specific kick-variant you mentioned:

Genevieve wrote:Yeah, bandpass or high pass with resonance can do this. Not that hard.

(btw, mad tunes there O: funny that, in my first post i wrote about breakcore being dead and now you link these...)

hasezwei wrote:moustache-wobbles

awesome, so true.

hasezwei wrote:breakcore being dead

got bad news for you, i've got the coroner's toxicology report right here in my hand. breakcore's as dead as trip hop.

hasezwei wrote:for gabber kicks in general: DON'T take a drum sample and overdrive it. that's corny as fuck.

Orrrr; take 2 drum samples (2 x 909 or 1 x 909, 1 x 808).

Keep one of the 909s or the 808 clean + compression to add punch (I don't even EQ them, except sometimes the 808).

Then put an 909 in another channel. Loads of distortion (100% wet) and process it like a MOTHERFUCKER. You can still get original sounds out of it. It's essentially a dirty square wave anyway. It's not uncommon for me to treat a distorted 909 like people treat a Reese (splitting into frequency ranges and different FX on each channel).

Recessive Trait wrote:

hasezwei wrote:moustache-wobbles

awesome, so true.

hasezwei wrote:breakcore being dead

got bad news for you, i've got the coroner's toxicology report right here in my hand. breakcore's as dead as trip hop.

It's dead because the elite proclaimed it dead. The music itself is still goooood. Very good even.

Recessive Trait wrote: got bad news for you, i've got the coroner's toxicology report right here in my hand. breakcore's as dead as trip hop.

bin saying that since '08 too bad, really... it was the first genre that made me completely fall in love with music and start producing, but it all turned into a putrid pile of , and even more . i blame dblue glitch
so when people like me started blasting out ridiculously complex amen edits without knowing shit about producing or music at all it was only a matter of time until the big heads all turned to other genres (drop the lime, cardopusher, enduser, bong-ra, ebola, dj donna summer) ... funny thing is, most of them started doing wobble-music after throwing away their amens
i kinda expect the same for dubstep since '09 but i guess it's too late for that... should we be happy or sad about that?

Genevieve wrote: It's dead because the elite proclaimed it dead. The music itself is still goooood. Very good even.

it's dead because most producers went on and there's not much of a scene left except a few scattered releases here and there... imagine there was a dubstep 12" every few months. that's pretty dead innit?
but don't worry, give it a few years and people will revive it again. at least i'll try

Genevieve wrote:

Thats Gabba?....but I kinda enjoyed it! That don't make sense haha.

lol--- what the fuck has got the dutch so pissed off?

Sharmaji wrote:lol--- what the fuck has got the dutch so pissed off?

Judging from recent events, I'd say losing football matches. o.o

Genevieve wrote:

Sharmaji wrote:lol--- what the fuck has got the dutch so pissed off?

Judging from recent events, I'd say losing football matches. o.o

and Electro.

legend4ry wrote:

Genevieve wrote:

Thats Gabba?....but I kinda enjoyed it! That don't make sense haha.

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Genevieve wrote:

Sharmaji wrote:lol--- what the fuck has got the dutch so pissed off?

Judging from recent events, I'd say losing football matches. o.o

yeah oooooooooooooooooooooouch

I thought it was a good idea to post this tune here seeing as the word breakcore has been dropped a few times.

Amazing tune. o.o Completely irrelevant to the rest of the thread.