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Ok i have had it and need to say this.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:11 pm
by HicksPhonix
I know some of you are going to hate or post alpacas and shhh. But i need to say this.

TO ALL YOU WANNABEE PRODUCERS:

Please create your OWN sounds, get your OWN synths, your OWN sequencer and daw, your OWN style and your OWN creative mind. By constantly asking this forum how to make a Datsik/Rusko/Bar9/Reso whatever the fuck sound, you are NOT growing as a musician!!

If you REALLY want to achieve something in music you need to be creative. I'm not saying i'm all that but at least i try to be creative.

The reason i'm never on this forum anymore is because of all the little wining shitheads asking how to make a certain sound.

FUCK OFF!!


So, thats it. Have a nice day. :D

Re: Ok i have had it and need to say this.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:45 pm
by Ongelegen
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:50 pm
by Mortal
HicksPhonix wrote:little wining shitheads

funny that!

Re: Ok i have had it and need to say this.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:59 pm
by Skimple
HicksPhonix wrote:


The reason i'm never on this forum anymore is because of all the little wining shitheads asking how to make a certain sound.
You've been a member since February and you've posted 28 times.

You were hardly on this forum in the first place man.

Re: Ok i have had it and need to say this.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:01 pm
by paravrais

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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:10 pm
by Crosby

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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:12 pm
by Sirius
ya know what...
without copying the styles of those that are good,
music would not be what it is today!
songs that the majority love....
remind them of another song!

OP what is your style of music/artist?
fuck playing drums, piano, violin, sax, guitar, etc... its been done before!!!!!
what a joke :lol:

Re: Ok i have had it and need to say this.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:17 pm
by MineOurArc
Surely it's like a band starting out and doing covers? Nothing wrong with it. Gives you a solid foundation to be able to crack on and doing something on your own two...

Re: Ok i have had it and need to say this.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:29 pm
by frizzwah
thank god you're here!
this place was getting out of control!

Re: Ok i have had it and need to say this.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:35 pm
by Genevieve
You know, regardless of what anyone will ask, they will most likely end up with a DAW that is being used by a bunch of members already, anyway. Jus' sayin'.

Re: Ok i have had it and need to say this.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:38 pm
by paravrais
MineOurArc wrote:Surely it's like a band starting out and doing covers? Nothing wrong with it. Gives you a solid foundation to be able to crack on and doing something on your own two...
Great way of putting it.

Re: Ok i have had it and need to say this.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:40 pm
by Elkie
:roll: get over yourself OP, your tunes are as bait as anyone elses on here.

Re: Ok i have had it and need to say this.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:43 pm
by Hurtdeer
this might sound a bit "out there", but we could just let people make whatever music they feel like making
who cares if it's a copy of something, just don't listen to it

Re: Ok i have had it and need to say this.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:47 pm
by djake
Elkie wrote::roll: get over yourself OP, your tunes are as bait as anyone elses on here.
:lol:

Re: Ok i have had it and need to say this.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:50 pm
by deadly_habit
Hurtdeer wrote:this might sound a bit "out there", but we could just let people make whatever music they feel like making
who cares if it's a copy of something, just don't listen to it
:z:
you actually can learn a lot from breaking down another producers sound
why aren't you all up in arms about people posting producer masterclasses then OP?
these threads are as cheesy and waste as people with their look at me spam posts (including the who's you're favorite/the best producer at x/y, why it's me hurr durr spam spam spam)

Re: Ok i have had it and need to say this.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:13 pm
by palmer
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:17 pm
by kaiori breathe
HicksPhonix wrote:I know some of you are going to hate or post alpacas and shhh. But i need to say this.

TO ALL YOU WANNABEE PRODUCERS:

Please create your OWN sounds, get your OWN synths, your OWN sequencer and daw, your OWN style and your OWN creative mind. By constantly asking this forum how to make a Datsik/Rusko/Bar9/Reso whatever the fuck sound, you are NOT growing as a musician!!

If you REALLY want to achieve something in music you need to be creative. I'm not saying i'm all that but at least i try to be creative.

The reason i'm never on this forum anymore is because of all the little wining shitheads asking how to make a certain sound.

FUCK OFF!!

So, thats it. Have a nice day. :D
No offense but you're wrong. This isn't my opinion, it's a fact. You are wrong. On pretty much every point.

1., Deconstructing or learning to make somebody else's sounds is a great way to learn, we do it when learning any instrument, why should production be any different? When you learn to play guitar you usually learn other people's songs before you can write your own, when you learn to play piano or violin or any instrument really you do the same thing. If it wasn't for pendulum I wouldn't know how to make a reese, if it wasn't for datsik I wouldn't know how to make a wobble, if it wasn't for 90s movie soundtracks I wouldn't know how to craft a song structurally. If it wasn't for the beatles I wouldn't know how to craft a song in terms of harmonic content and movement. If it wasn't for current value and loki I wouldn't know the first thing about how to process drums or how to make a dirty stab and if it wasn't for Chase and Status' Eastern Jam I wouldn't have used arabic vocals in my last tune. I could go on and on like this, but the point is learning from the people you listen to isn't a sign that the end result of how you use that knowledge will be uncreative and it would make you a fool to assume that it would.

2., Your own style is nothing more than a big melting pot of all your own musical influences combined into one rounded set of musical inclinations that you will use to express your experiences, thoughts, views or feelings. You cannot remain objective and unbiased towards the inclinations of other artists. It's impossible.

3., You can be just as creative by emulating your heroes as you could by sitting in a dark room listening to static and writing without musical influences as the elitists would like to see you do. You can have the best sounds in the world like all your favorite producers and still make a track that sounds like a piece of rancid shit because creativity is more about how you craft a tune from a musical point of view. Sure you can be creative with how you actually make your sounds, but this creativity comes second to crafting a piece of art that is melodically and harmonically inclined towards drawing its listener in and taking them on a journey. And if you want to craft original and creative bass sounds or pads the only way to do that is to learn how to make them in the first place. Why take a hit and miss approach when you can learn the foundations and the basics then do things differently?

4., I doubt anybody cares if your not on this forum anymore given your abrasive and rude nature.

Have a nice day.

PS. I've nothing against you personally - just everything you believe.

Re: Ok i have had it and need to say this.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:17 pm
by Wikum
lol you've all been trolled

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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:18 pm
by Crosby
Elkie wrote::roll: get over yourself OP, your tunes are as bait as anyone elses on here.
:lol: :lol:

Re: Ok i have had it and need to say this.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:18 pm
by stereotactic
The reason i'm never on this forum anymore is because of all the little wining shitheads asking how to make a certain sound.
I'm sure you will be missed.

I get turned off forums were holier than thou dickheads somehow feel it neccessary to post bullshit threads about grievances that show up what a sadly lacking life they must have. At least the 'how do I make this sound' threads usually help someone.

Good to hear you won't be around then, I kinda like it here.