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At the moment I've been staring at the screen in reason for hours thinking wtf?
I've had my intro written up for atleast a month now, I like it too..
Problem is, I don't know where to take it now.
I was thinking deep subby vibes but it sounds a bit too dancy for the chilled stuff.
Don't really want to throw a massive load of midrange over it either.
I mean this is actually killing me now cause I want to do more to it, I even have a few ideas, it's just getting them down that I'm struggling with.
And I don't really wanna bin this as I feel it's my best bit of music so far.
Fml.
Just kill me now
I don't need inspiring, I am inspired.. It's just getting what's going on in my head onto the track.
Any general ideas to help?
Already posted the track in last months WIP thread, but got no general ideas on where to take it.
So yeah, it's not a check out my new tune thread, I hope.
But I really need help with this.
Sorry about the long post, and thanks in advance anyway.

link to post in wip thread?

possibly the thing in his sig?

http://www.dubstepforum.com/works-in-pr ... r%20zitbag

yeah, it's the track in the sig.

dr-zitbag wrote:A
I was thinking deep subby vibes but it sounds a bit too dancy for the chilled stuff.

quarter note kick w/ syncopated sub and lazer samples.

Sharmaji wrote:quarter note kick w/ syncopated sub and lazer samples.

Just did a quick google on this and I still have no understanding to what a syncopated sub is lol.
From what I did read I was tad confused afterwards.

And a quarter note kick would come be on every quarter of the bar right?
So the kick would come in on the hits 1, 4, 7 and 10 on a 4/4 scale?

dr-zitbag wrote:

Sharmaji wrote:quarter note kick w/ syncopated sub and lazer samples.

Just did a quick google on this and I still have no understanding to what a syncopated sub is lol.
From what I did read I was tad confused afterwards.

And a quarter note kick would come be on every quarter of the bar right?
So the kick would come in on the hits 1, 4, 7 and 10 on a 4/4 scale?

1, 2, 3, 4

and syncopation is going against the established rhythm. try making the sub accent off beat notes and stuff like that

Phigure wrote: 1, 2, 3, 4

and syncopation is going against the established rhythm. try making the sub accent off beat notes and stuff like that

1,2,3, is the same as what I mean with the 1,4,7,10.
I kinda read into drum beats a little different.
See on a 4/4 scale there are 16 hits in a bar and I count them all seperately hence the 1,4,7,10 lol.

So basically, using off note keys that match what's already in place.
Gonna read up alot more on this and maybe listen to alot of jazz before I eventually try and crack on.

dr-zitbag wrote:

Phigure wrote: 1, 2, 3, 4

and syncopation is going against the established rhythm. try making the sub accent off beat notes and stuff like that

1,2,3, is the same as what I mean with the 1,4,7,10.
I kinda read into drum beats a little different.
See on a 4/4 scale there are 16 hits in a bar and I count them all seperately hence the 1,4,7,10 lol.

So basically, using off note keys that match what's already in place.
Gonna read up alot more on this and maybe listen to alot of jazz before I eventually try and crack on.

there's not just 16 hits in a bar, it depends entirely on the quantization level you're working with

Phigure wrote:there's not just 16 hits in a bar, it depends entirely on the quantization level you're working with

I normally keep everything quantised entirely to a 4/4 grid, sometimes if its not flowing as much as i'd like or if i want to make a snare sound a bit more full I'll add a tight snare in that comes in a tiny bit before the main snare and move hats and randoms.
Saying this I'll only drag hits out of grid ever so slightly.
If quantised a 4/4 grid only had 16 hits right?

See I was reading that and that's where I became confused lol.
I got the general idea of what it was saying, but not to the full extent of it's meaning.
Maybe I should learn what each musical word means too.

Imagine if you were clapping out a simple rhythm to someone and they kept on clapping their hands when you weren't and "filling in the gaps" between your claps. It feel a bit "off". That is syncopation.

dr-zitbag wrote:

Phigure wrote:there's not just 16 hits in a bar, it depends entirely on the quantization level you're working with

I normally keep everything quantised entirely to a 4/4 grid, sometimes if its not flowing as much as i'd like or if i want to make a snare sound a bit more full I'll add a tight snare in that comes in a tiny bit before the main snare and move hats and randoms.
Saying this I'll only drag hits out of grid ever so slightly.
If quantised a 4/4 grid only had 16 hits right?

I was gonna write something patronising but then I changed my mind, feel I may be turning over a new leaf XD You should be able to set your quantisation amount to many different settings, 1/16 is the most common for simple melodies but it's very common to have hits on the 32ths as it were. I normally work in 1/32 mode, or with snap switched off (I switch between the two settings, wouldn't make an entire song in either) as they are both good for different things.

Only working with 16 steps in a bar is really quite limited imo. Specially for something like Dubstep.

paravrais wrote:

dr-zitbag wrote:

Phigure wrote:there's not just 16 hits in a bar, it depends entirely on the quantization level you're working with

I normally keep everything quantised entirely to a 4/4 grid, sometimes if its not flowing as much as i'd like or if i want to make a snare sound a bit more full I'll add a tight snare in that comes in a tiny bit before the main snare and move hats and randoms.
Saying this I'll only drag hits out of grid ever so slightly.
If quantised a 4/4 grid only had 16 hits right?

I was gonna write something patronising but then I changed my mind, feel I may be turning over a new leaf XD You should be able to set your quantisation amount to many different settings, 1/16 is the most common for simple melodies but it's very common to have hits on the 32ths as it were. I normally work in 1/32 mode, or with snap switched off (I switch between the two settings, wouldn't make an entire song in either) as they are both good for different things.

Only working with 16 steps in a bar is really quite limited imo. Specially for something like Dubstep.

agreed

your music is going to sound awfully rigid with only 16 "slots" to utilize

paravrais wrote:I was gonna write something patronising but then I changed my mind, feel I may be turning over a new leaf XD You should be able to set your quantisation amount to many different settings, 1/16 is the most common for simple melodies but it's very common to have hits on the 32ths as it were. I normally work in 1/32 mode, or with snap switched off (I switch between the two settings, wouldn't make an entire song in either) as they are both good for different things.

Only working with 16 steps in a bar is really quite limited imo. Specially for something like Dubstep.

Yeah, I know you can switch the steps, and it's not really difficult to, but for the time being I'd just like to make something I think is pretty decent in a 4/4 grid.
Which imo I'm doing ok with at the moment, I'm just wondering where to take my tune next.
I'd like to make it something progressive and subby and not just wallop at midrange wobble all over it and lose the vibes going on.
So I'm gonna give the syncopated sub bass pattern a shot and hopefully I'll get it to sound ok with my intro and maybe progress into a decent enough tune.
Heads out to Sharmaji, Phigure and Bugsky on the tips,
and I'll try get something up as soon a possible for feedback on what I've done sounds ok. (In the correct thread ofcourse )

dr-zitbag wrote:

paravrais wrote:I was gonna write something patronising but then I changed my mind, feel I may be turning over a new leaf XD You should be able to set your quantisation amount to many different settings, 1/16 is the most common for simple melodies but it's very common to have hits on the 32ths as it were. I normally work in 1/32 mode, or with snap switched off (I switch between the two settings, wouldn't make an entire song in either) as they are both good for different things.

Only working with 16 steps in a bar is really quite limited imo. Specially for something like Dubstep.

Yeah, I know you can switch the steps, and it's not really difficult to, but for the time being I'd just like to make something I think is pretty decent in a 4/4 grid.
Which imo I'm doing ok with at the moment, I'm just wondering where to take my tune next.
I'd like to make it something progressive and subby and not just wallop at midrange wobble all over it and lose the vibes going on.
So I'm gonna give the syncopated sub bass pattern a shot and hopefully I'll get it to sound ok with my intro and maybe progress into a decent enough tune.
Heads out to Sharmaji, Phigure and Bugsky on the tips,
and I'll try get something up as soon a possible for feedback on what I've done sounds ok. (In the correct thread ofcourse )

quantization into 16/24/32 are all still in 4/4. it just changes the level of detail you can work with.

Phigure wrote:

dr-zitbag wrote:

paravrais wrote:I was gonna write something patronising but then I changed my mind, feel I may be turning over a new leaf XD You should be able to set your quantisation amount to many different settings, 1/16 is the most common for simple melodies but it's very common to have hits on the 32ths as it were. I normally work in 1/32 mode, or with snap switched off (I switch between the two settings, wouldn't make an entire song in either) as they are both good for different things.

Only working with 16 steps in a bar is really quite limited imo. Specially for something like Dubstep.

Yeah, I know you can switch the steps, and it's not really difficult to, but for the time being I'd just like to make something I think is pretty decent in a 4/4 grid.
Which imo I'm doing ok with at the moment, I'm just wondering where to take my tune next.
I'd like to make it something progressive and subby and not just wallop at midrange wobble all over it and lose the vibes going on.
So I'm gonna give the syncopated sub bass pattern a shot and hopefully I'll get it to sound ok with my intro and maybe progress into a decent enough tune.
Heads out to Sharmaji, Phigure and Bugsky on the tips,
and I'll try get something up as soon a possible for feedback on what I've done sounds ok. (In the correct thread ofcourse )

quantization into 16/24/32 are all still in 4/4. it just changes the level of detail you can work with.

Yeah, misworded it

no worries

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