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Breakdowns, do we NEED to have them?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:06 am
by Dacks
I finished the tune in my sig off not long ago and sent it around to some people, i got a lot of good feedback however one piece of advice that stood out to me was that I needed to put in a break down and take the bass out in the middle somewhere. my idea of a break down in the track was where I took out the main wobbley synth but kept the sub.

so tell me what's your view? are breakdowns 100 percent necessary in dubstep today? do we have to completely cut out bass to let the ravers know that there is a breakdown?

would be good to hear what other producers think on this subject!

peace.

Re: Breakdowns, do we NEED to have them?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:08 am
by Basic A
Do what feels right.

Fuck em if they say otherwise.

Re: Breakdowns, do we NEED to have them?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:12 am
by Pedro Sánchez
Basic A wrote:Do what feels right.

Fuck em if they say otherwise.
:z:

Re: Breakdowns, do we NEED to have them?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:16 am
by Phigure
Basic A wrote:Do what feels right.

Fuck em if they say otherwise.
hit the nail on the head

Re: Breakdowns, do we NEED to have them?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:23 am
by Dacks
i completely agree to these replys, i personally dont think there should be any "rules" to production, especially if the tune can still slam the ground when it gets played.

Re: Breakdowns, do we NEED to have them?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:45 am
by paravrais
Agree with everyone else however I just wanna add that you have a pretty basic and warped idea of a breakdown, it can be literally anything that changes the pace / general idea of the song. It can be just the bass dropping out but you can do so much more with it and it really helps keep a song interesting.

Re: Breakdowns, do we NEED to have them?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:45 am
by naus
Phigure wrote:
Basic A wrote:Do what feels right.

Fuck em if they say otherwise.
hit the nail on the head

Re: Breakdowns, do we NEED to have them?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:46 am
by mojomusic
yepyep, do what sounds best.

Re: Breakdowns, do we NEED to have them?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:28 am
by paradigm_x
Dubstep bylaw 814-27 does state that that a breakdown must occur between 2:20 and 2:35 (except on a sunday) but AFAIK this only applies in Missouri.

Re: Breakdowns, do we NEED to have them?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:59 am
by Maree-Jaine
Basic A wrote:Do what feels right.

Fuck em if they say otherwise.

This.

It's your music. Do what you want with it. :mrgreen:

Re: Breakdowns, do we NEED to have them?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:06 am
by JFK
Maree-Jaine wrote:
Basic A wrote:Do what feels right.

Fuck em if they say otherwise.

This.

It's your music. Do what you want with it. :mrgreen:

Re: Breakdowns, do we NEED to have them?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:14 am
by Depone
For me, because of my mixing style, I do hammer it tune after tune, but then i Love to also mix intro's with mid-breaks to give it some space and impact for the next one. I will do this 1/4 tracks i mix in. Definately make a bigger impact.

Do it if you want to, its the norm for most tracks to be set in this way to be able to mix easily. Ie it has a visible and audible point of reference to ware you should start mixing in the next track etc...
Just my opinion.

Re: Breakdowns, do we NEED to have them?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:43 am
by Basic A
Depone wrote:For me, because of my mixing style, I do hammer it tune after tune, but then i Love to also mix intro's with mid-breaks to give it some space and impact for the next one. I will do this 1/4 tracks i mix in. Definately make a bigger impact.

Do it if you want to, its the norm for most tracks to be set in this way to be able to mix easily. Ie it has a visible and audible point of reference to ware you should start mixing in the next track etc...
Just my opinion.
Now you know what we're gonna say already. :?

If its worth playing we the djs will make it work.

And for some peoples opinions, the odder the structure, the more fun to mix.

Re: Breakdowns, do we NEED to have them?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:05 pm
by Capture pt
im gonna make a track with a 4 bar breakdown every 8 bars for 8 minutes just for the challenge.

Re: Breakdowns, do we NEED to have them?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:45 pm
by the dub lemon
I quite often go for break ups rather than break downs, the latest work in progress has quite a nice break up.

Re: Breakdowns, do we NEED to have them?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:06 pm
by SunkLo
As long has it has some sort of dynamic energy. If it's at 100% all the time that 100 starts to sound like 50%.

Re: Breakdowns, do we NEED to have them?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:08 pm
by In The Shadows
two drops has been a tired arrangement forever, people like Dillinja have been playing that card weekly since the mid 90s, any chance you get to make a tune outside of that format should be jumped upon.

Re: Breakdowns, do we NEED to have them?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:26 pm
by hurlingdervish
keep in mind that the dj also can just cut out the bass of your tune so its not like they always need an "easy-mode" transition set up for them

Re: Breakdowns, do we NEED to have them?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:49 pm
by FSTZ
paradigm x wrote:Dubstep bylaw 814-27 does state that that a breakdown must occur between 2:20 and 2:35 (except on a sunday) but AFAIK this only applies in Missouri.
LOL

looks like I have been breaking the "Missouri dubstep bi-laws"

haha

Re: Breakdowns, do we NEED to have them?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:55 pm
by deadly_habit
FSTZ wrote:
paradigm x wrote:Dubstep bylaw 814-27 does state that that a breakdown must occur between 2:20 and 2:35 (except on a sunday) but AFAIK this only applies in Missouri.
LOL

looks like I have been breaking the "Missouri dubstep bi-laws"

haha
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