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LOGIC ultrabeat help needed

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:24 am
by milliGANJ
Hey everybody

When I make beats in ultrabeat the only way I can put them into a track is by automating the volume. How can I make these beats from ultrabeat into loops?

also if anyone has any other good tips or tricks for logic pro 8 PM them to me or post them here!

cheers guys

Re: LOGIC ultrabeat help needed

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:33 am
by Sirius
down the bottom left hand corner next to pattern... is a rectangle.
drag that onto ya track!!

!!chea

Re: LOGIC ultrabeat help needed

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:36 am
by milliGANJ
yes bro! that has changed my life!
muchos gracias

Re: LOGIC ultrabeat help needed

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:56 am
by Sirius
milliGANJ wrote:yes bro! that has changed my life!
muchos gracias
muy bien che!!

!!chea

Re: LOGIC ultrabeat help needed

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:29 pm
by BigFatMonkey
Took me a while to figure that one out too! :D Ultrabeat is great for making drums. I use it all the time, especially for kicks and snares.

Apologies if you already do this but for me figuring out how to use the drag and drop samples was a big step forward in getting the sounds I wanted. It's great for layering or just making a custom drum kit.

You'll need some samples samples first off, wav files of drum hits, there's loads of free ones available online. You'll probably need to pay to get good quality ones though.

I'll assume you know about layering to get fatter drum sounds already, there's tons of info about that elsewhere in the forum if not.

If you search through the drum kits in the drop down menu you'll find the Drag and Drop samples kit. It's basically an empty kit that you can load any sound into as long as you have it in a wav file on your hard drive. Open the kit and find where it says 'no sample loaded' near the bottom left corner. Click the little down arrow on the left and select 'load sample', now you can choose whatever sound you want to load. For me it's usually a snare which I want to layer on top of another. Load whichever sound you want, them move up to sample 2 and load another in there in the same way. If you are layering then use the sequencer to get them to play at the same time and you can now EQ, add whit noise, Change the attack/release to suit. Alternatively you can fill all the sample slots up with different sounds to make a complete drum kit.

Hope that helps :D

Re: LOGIC ultrabeat help needed

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:08 pm
by Depone
I hate ultrabeat and its fugly Gui.

Go with Battery 3 or plain audio.
I have never got on with ultrabeat, and have used logic since the first version of 7, a good 5 years back.

Re: LOGIC ultrabeat help needed

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:15 am
by ninjadog
Anyone know of some decent UB tutorials?

Re: LOGIC ultrabeat help needed

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:48 pm
by milliGANJ
hey guys this is all gold thanks for all the help! I've started using the drag and drop samples kit since you said and its awesome.


does anyone know how to copy and paste automation data?

Re: LOGIC ultrabeat help needed

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:07 pm
by Sirius
in automation mode...
hold down command & the marquee tool will come up...
highlight what ya want....
hold down option & click the section...
then while still holding down the option key...
click & drag to where you want it.

or ya can just hold down the option key and select & then drag

to put it on another channel...
just highlight what ya want...
then press copy(command c)....
then click on the track ya want to paste it on....
& press paste (command v)...

simples!!

!!chea

Re: LOGIC ultrabeat help needed

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:26 pm
by milliGANJ
Hey thanks for all the advice so far this is a track I made with your help!


Soundcloud

Re: LOGIC ultrabeat help needed

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:18 am
by amphibian
Depone wrote:I hate ultrabeat and its fugly Gui.

Go with Battery 3 or plain audio.
I have never got on with ultrabeat, and have used logic since the first version of 7, a good 5 years back.
Interestingly I find ultrabeat to be more intuitive and more powerful than any other drum pattern/sequencer I've used to date (including battery 3). I love that you can create your own buses directly from ultrabeat as well.

Re: LOGIC ultrabeat help needed

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:49 am
by Ldizzy
Depone hooked me up with guru..

game changer for me.

dont hack it tho.. they'll find u :twisted:

Re: LOGIC ultrabeat help needed

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:35 am
by Depone
Ldizzy wrote:Depone hooked me up with guru..

game changer for me.

dont hack it tho.. they'll find u :twisted:
Just to be clear... I didnt send him warez, I buy my stuff (most of it :oops: )
I just pointed him/her to the right direction!

Re: LOGIC ultrabeat help needed

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:07 am
by Ldizzy
LOL

yeah u really just told me it existed.. im sorry i had u lookin like a crook.. its a shame..

i quit doing that anyways..

when u invest u get motivated...

Re: LOGIC ultrabeat help needed

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:56 am
by ketamine
Ultrabeat is definitely :u: but I want to learn it so I can do drums / percussion as easily as I used to in FL... Had Logic over 2 years now, and don't really need UB, but... it's there... guess I should, but learning curve is just frustrating...

Re: LOGIC ultrabeat help needed

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:24 pm
by Ldizzy
ketamine wrote:Ultrabeat is definitely :u: but I want to learn it so I can do drums / percussion as easily as I used to in FL... Had Logic over 2 years now, and don't really need UB, but... it's there... guess I should, but learning curve is just frustrating...
ive never came across any vst that took more then a week to learn if u retrive the ''technical knowledge underlying''.. if u have the principles somewhere in ur mind, its a matter of actually sitting down and doing it.

Re: LOGIC ultrabeat help needed

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:23 pm
by Sirius
ultrabeat is alright. but ya gota use the multi output function to make it sound good & thats a whole nutha can of worms.
i suggest ya go have a look at logicninjas tutorials about it on youtube.
personally, i've gone back to using straight drum hits on the audio tracks,
dont snap to grid & muck around with incidentals like.

!!chea

Re: LOGIC ultrabeat help needed

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:34 pm
by aspect-dubz
Sirius wrote:ultrabeat is alright. but ya gota use the multi output function to make it sound good & thats a whole nutha can of worms.
i suggest ya go have a look at logicninjas tutorials about it on youtube.
personally, i've gone back to using straight drum hits on the audio tracks,
dont snap to grid & muck around with incidentals like.

!!chea
it's not really that hard tbh,
. Just select a multi output for UB (as you stated)
. copy the instrument in as many channels as you need, according to how many samples your using
. Go through deleting the unwanted notes so that you can assign each channel to a seperate samples
and that's it, all you need to do now is turn off the sequencer and you can add effect's and dynamics to each individual sample.

Re: LOGIC ultrabeat help needed

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:13 am
by Sirius
aspect-dubz wrote:
Sirius wrote:ultrabeat is alright. but ya gota use the multi output function to make it sound good & thats a whole nutha can of worms.
i suggest ya go have a look at logicninjas tutorials about it on youtube.
personally, i've gone back to using straight drum hits on the audio tracks,
dont snap to grid & muck around with incidentals like.

!!chea
it's not really that hard tbh,
. Just select a multi output for UB (as you stated)
. copy the instrument in as many channels as you need, according to how many samples your using
. Go through deleting the unwanted notes so that you can assign each channel to a seperate samples
and that's it, all you need to do now is turn off the sequencer and you can add effect's and dynamics to each individual sample.
thats not really how ya do it ay bro.
ya have to assign the sound ya want in UB,
then ya open up ya environment window,
then click on the lil + symbol on the UB channel strip!

where it can get murky.. is when ya group only certain hits... snare & kick, hit hat & rimshots & other percussion.
the maybe ya want to automate their busses.... so ya have to create a new audio track, then reassign the track header.

ya can into depth as much as ya want... it can be easia to do it your way.... but thats multi tracking, not multi outputting like!

!!chea


edit... just read ya post again, disregard the info that is pretty much the same as u said

Re: LOGIC ultrabeat help needed

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:25 am
by Sharmaji
every morning at about 11am i look up and thank god for the acoustic hihat bank. both for keeprs and placeholders until i can get a real hihat in the mix.

also-- don't count out using UB as a layer for basslines.