Just curious, as I don't follow this music all that much...but considering dubstep seems to have been increasingly marginalized over the past few years, along with terms like "future garage," "post-dubstep," "wonky," etc. How the hell do you describe stuff like Blunted Robots / Night Slugs / James Blake / Instra Mental / 2562 / Mount Kimbie / Pariah / Kingdom / Martyn / Ikonika / Eleven Tigers and all that stuff in between to people who don't know a thing about musical genres and need something to search out?
I kinda like the idea of there not being a genre name, as it kinda just lets everyone do their own thing...but at the same time I've met loads of people that like these artists but claim they don't really like dubstep, while a lot of this stuff seems to sound enough like early Kode 9 / Loefah / Horsepower / etc. to be considered a natural progression. So just out of curiosity, what's the deal? Is this stuff accepted as dubstep these days, is it UK funky, is it fringe, is it mainstream, or what? Just interested in hearing peoples' opinions...
Re: is there a genre name for all of this stuff yet?
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:26 am
by deadly_habit
music
Re: is there a genre name for all of this stuff yet?
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:38 am
by cloak and dagger
deadly habit wrote:music
how to make friends:
when they ask you what kind of music you make, reply with "music"
seriously though, this is club- and scene-based music, so marketing, advertising, and compartmentalizing is a necessity to some degree, so genre and sub-genre names are inevitable really
Re: is there a genre name for all of this stuff yet?
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:42 am
by deadly_habit
cloak and dagger wrote:
deadly habit wrote:music
how to make friends:
when they ask you what kind of music you make, reply with "music"
seriously though, this is club- and scene-based music, so marketing, advertising, and compartmentalizing is a necessity to some degree, so genre and sub-genre names are inevitable really
yea unfortunately
hopefully someone comes up with something original and not retarded sounding for a change though preferable devoid of nu, step, core in the description
Re: is there a genre name for all of this stuff yet?
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:44 am
by fractal
Here we go again...
I'm just glad we get to enjoy it for a little while longer before it needs to be "marketed and compartmentalized"
Re: is there a genre name for all of this stuff yet?
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:47 am
by fractal
deadly habit wrote:
cloak and dagger wrote:
deadly habit wrote:music
how to make friends:
when they ask you what kind of music you make, reply with "music"
seriously though, this is club- and scene-based music, so marketing, advertising, and compartmentalizing is a necessity to some degree, so genre and sub-genre names are inevitable really
yea unfortunately
hopefully someone comes up with something original and not retarded sounding for a change though preferable devoid of nu, step, core in the description
Or future
Re: is there a genre name for all of this stuff yet?
Re: is there a genre name for all of this stuff yet?
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:54 am
by fractal
"house"
Re: is there a genre name for all of this stuff yet?
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:58 am
by cloak and dagger
as lame as the actual name is, I love the idea of "bass music" that you hear being thrown around a little bit these days...the idea that dubstep, uk funky, dnb, garage, electro, whatever are all close enough to coexist and share club nights all without specific restrictions that tend to plague genres (except for bass, I guess)
The fact that labels like Nonplus, Naked Lunch, Hyperdub, Digital Soundboy, Auxiliary, etc. are putting out releases that aren't restricted by tempo as an ethos is really a step in the right direction in my opinion...hopefully it continues.
Re: is there a genre name for all of this stuff yet?
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:07 am
by MikeE
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Re: is there a genre name for all of this stuff yet?
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:31 am
by fractal
cloak and dagger wrote:as lame as the actual name is, I love the idea of "bass music" that you hear being thrown around a little bit these days...the idea that dubstep, uk funky, dnb, garage, electro, whatever are all close enough to coexist and share club nights all without specific restrictions that tend to plague genres (except for bass, I guess)
The fact that labels like Nonplus, Naked Lunch, Hyperdub, Digital Soundboy, Auxiliary, etc. are putting out releases that aren't restricted by tempo as an ethos is really a step in the right direction in my opinion...hopefully it continues.
Yeah! I love that this music is all over the place in terms of tempo, percussion and style these days, it's a really exciting time to be on the dance floor!!!
Re: is there a genre name for all of this stuff yet?
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:54 am
by badger
most of it's just other dubstep, just like half step is other dubstep compared to the original stuff. different sounds doesn't have to mean different genre
some of it's closer to house/uk funky though...
Re: is there a genre name for all of this stuff yet?
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:33 am
by joeki
Put UK in front of everything.
UK Garage
UK House
UK Funky
Re: is there a genre name for all of this stuff yet?
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:37 am
by therapist
My mate asked me if I'd seen a certain film the other day, I hadn't, asked what it was like and he kept just saying "it's a film." I ended up smashing his head in with a rock.
Re: is there a genre name for all of this stuff yet?
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:07 pm
by life after math
The North American UK Funky scene is thriving right now.
Re: is there a genre name for all of this stuff yet?
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:12 pm
by deadly_habit
life after math wrote:The North American UK Funky scene is thriving right now.
i wonder how the UK detroit and UK baltimore club scenes are doing
Re: is there a genre name for all of this stuff yet?
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:23 pm
by FackOff
FUTURE SAILORS
Re: is there a genre name for all of this stuff yet?
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:39 pm
by logic pro
FackOff wrote:FUTURE SAILORS
tahts wehr ihts aht. future sailorz all the wahy!
Re: is there a genre name for all of this stuff yet?
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:17 pm
by djshiva
cloak and dagger wrote:as lame as the actual name is, I love the idea of "bass music" that you hear being thrown around a little bit these days...the idea that dubstep, uk funky, dnb, garage, electro, whatever are all close enough to coexist and share club nights all without specific restrictions that tend to plague genres (except for bass, I guess)
The fact that labels like Nonplus, Naked Lunch, Hyperdub, Digital Soundboy, Auxiliary, etc. are putting out releases that aren't restricted by tempo as an ethos is really a step in the right direction in my opinion...hopefully it continues.
Re: is there a genre name for all of this stuff yet?
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:36 pm
by JimmaJamJamie
If anyone asks what music i like i generally say 'Bass Music' as i like a wide range of bass orientated music. Not just Dubstep, Drum & Bass, House etc.