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Musical Telephone - COMPLETE!

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:48 am
by grooki
Introducing the interesting DSF experiment!

In a recent thread there was a discussion (probably the millionth on this forum) about music originality, how to go about learning to produce and get your musical ideas down. Some people thought you should go for your "own style", which I would summarise as trying to ignore as much as possible other producers in dubstep, and make something "completely original". The other lot were saying you should find someone's sound who you like and try and copy it, in order to learn the ancient techniques that they use to make their tracks bang. And a whole lot of people in the middle.

Then Basic A said that he thought it wasn't a good idea to take too much inspiration from within the genre that you are trying to produce, lest you fall prey to "musical inbreeding", where basically the style feedsback on itself over and over again, until it all goes horribly wrong like Bionic delay. He then compared this to Chinese Whispers (un-PC innit?), where the initial whispering gets distorted, usually by accident, as it gets relayed along the line of people.

ANYWAY. I thought this would be an interesting little experiment to try! Let's play telephone with music and see what happens. Basically, one person would make a short track. Someone else would listen to it once, and then try and recreate that exact track. Someone else would then listen to this new track and try and recreate the exact track. Until everyone involved has had a shot. Then we listen to them all in a row from original to end point, and see how the sound changes.

The guidelines I have thought of are:
1. the original track must be one minute long (or so)
2. whoever is going to recreate the track can only listen to the source track once. There will be no way to enforce this, but hopefully everyone will participate in the spirit of things and not listen to the source track again until they have finished recreating it.
3. post in this thread if you want to join in. Only say you are going to join in if you really are going to join in - you are then in the queue
4. You'll receive the track from the person in front of you in the queue. Listen to it once, recreate it, then send a 320 to both me and the next person in the queue. DON'T POST IT ON THIS BOARD. This will destroy the entire project, and the world.
5. If you take longer than 48 hours to receive, recreate and pass on, you will be SKIPPED, I will hand the track on to the person behind you in the queue. You are free to rejoin the queue, albeit at the end. This is to keep the experiment alive.

I think point two is important - it really isn't about how good you are at replicating something, there won't be prizes for good replications, or smacks if you go completely off the rails.

THE RESULT:

http://www.mediafire.com/?60x0k7l1115g64o

The chain:
Grooki
Green Plan
3za
Promise One
Erebus-7
Bugsky

Re: Musical Chinese Whispers

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:00 am
by green plan
Although I'm sure there will be haterzzzzzzz who come into the thread I'm keen. Was sceptical at first, but am happy to have a go at recreating something you make after listening to it only once.

Re: Musical Chinese Whispers

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:03 am
by Nacklewicket
Im in on this! :)

Re: Musical Chinese Whispers

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:07 am
by Basic A
hell yeah Grooki I was hoping someone would actually star this rolling...

Give us a track man, Ill give it a go.

Re: Musical Chinese Whispers

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:35 am
by deadly_habit
ah the musical equivalent to playing telephone
count me in

Re: Musical Chinese Whispers

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:32 am
by Promise One
I'm interested, if I've got the time too then might give it a go.

Re: Musical Chinese Whispers

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:47 am
by 3za
im down :)

Re: Musical Chinese Whispers

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:58 am
by grooki
deadly habit wrote:ah the musical equivalent to playing telephone
count me in
ah that's a better name lol.

I thought we could just go in the order of the "yes I'll be in" posts, which means that Green Plan is first! I have sent him a clip.

Let's keep it moving!

Try and do it in 48 hours or so, so that this thread doesn't go stale and sad as so many other threads have in the past. Please only say yes if you are actually going to have a go. It doesn't have to be a masterpiece! just whack what you think you heard down!


Another Rule!
:D
When you have finished, send it the person who posted below you, AND TO ME! Also post in this thread so that everyone knows where it's at.

Remember - only one listen! I hope I didn't make it too hard haha.

Re: Musical Chinese Whispers

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:46 pm
by kaiori breathe
I'm in

Re: Musical Chinese Whispers

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:57 pm
by djake
yea im down for this!

Re: Musical Chinese Whispers

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:22 pm
by Erebus-7
sounds awesome, im in ! probably should have a results thread as to not get the order of people and shit all messy, just an idea.

Re: Musical Chinese Whispers

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:11 pm
by green plan
Just got Grooki's track then. Haven't listened to it yet. Will do that and make the track today, then send it on Nacklewicket who posted second in the thread.

Re: Musical Chinese Whispers

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:50 pm
by GRAYSKALE
I'm game! hope my laptop is back from repair by the time the track reaches me!

Re: Musical Chinese Whispers

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:03 am
by DJ Crackle
down! this sounds fun.
also, I've definitely always heard this as Telephone. Don't recall it ever being called Chinese Whispers. Lol

Re: Musical Chinese Whispers

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:17 am
by grooki
Great! It looks like the ball is rolling - to keep it rolling (and get around peeps who say 'yes' and then sit on it too long :wink: ) there is going to be another rule (lots of rules hey?)

If you take longer than 48 hours, you'll be skipped in the queue!

this really is just to keep it moving - if something happened and you couldn't reply or didn't have time to copy the track, you can still join in, at the end of the queue, just make a new post that you are in. It's not to be mean or anything, simply to keep it going so we come out with something :D

Re: Musical Chinese Whispers

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:49 am
by Basic A
Eh, typed a bit, but, really, rather just hurry myself with the project work then open up too heavy a discussion here.

Likin the 48 hour rule man, thats always been the downfall to our rolling collab... But I still think me you depone deadly n whyrez would have killed it, I think wenwere the only ones serious back then :lol:

Re: Musical Chinese Whispers

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:40 am
by green plan
Sweet I've just about finished your tune grooki. Feels like a cheap imitation of what I can remember haha. Like the brainy kid whispered something to the naughty kid. Once we're finished this should be funny as comparing them all. Your tune was lovely mate, real madd/von d deepness to it. Will send my one on tomorrow morning (NZ time), just doing a few touches up etc. That'll be just under 48 hours...bam!

Re: Musical Chinese Whispers

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:55 am
by grooki
green plan wrote:Sweet I've just about finished your tune grooki. Feels like a cheap imitation of what I can remember haha. Like the brainy kid whispered something to the naughty kid. Once we're finished this should be funny as comparing them all. Your tune was lovely mate, real madd/von d deepness to it. Will send my one on tomorrow morning (NZ time), just doing a few touches up etc. That'll be just under 48 hours...bam!
awesome! I think if this works it's going to be really interesting!
Basic A wrote:Eh, typed a bit, but, really, rather just hurry myself with the project work then open up too heavy a discussion here.

Likin the 48 hour rule man, thats always been the downfall to our rolling collab... But I still think me you depone deadly n whyrez would have killed it, I think wenwere the only ones serious back then :lol:
For sure, and we can always have another go sometime :D

Re: Musical Chinese Whispers

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:14 am
by hakka
Count me in :wink:

Re: Musical Chinese Whispers

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:56 pm
by bugsky
Sounds like a good exercise. Count me in.