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Well, we had our best shot at dominating the political landscape and completely squandered it.

Tomorrow morning the Democrats time is over and the inevitable swing back begins. By 2012 Republicans will once again control the House and Senate, and if the right nomination occurs, the presidency (still think Obama can win)


At least Colbert and Stewart will be hilarious tonight.

i think people are just going to be voting anti-incumbent for a couple election cycles coz the economy is goin to suck for a while...

the discourse surrounding these elections is horrifying tho...

pompende wrote:i think people are just going to be voting anti-incumbent for a couple election cycles coz the economy is goin to suck for a while...

the discourse surrounding these elections is horrifying tho...

Yeah, the problem is Obama and Pelosi have become such a rallying point it's crazy. They got really fucking arrogant with the healthcare thing. It wasn't popular in the USA, democrats included didn't want it yet they pushed it through as a flex of power. From that point on the Republicans had a point of emphasis.


The one good thing is without a democratic lock the blame can be shared by both parties which may be a saving grace for Obama

early numbers are no bueno... this could be a massacre in favor of the republicans

We're fucking doomed. Team Stupid won tonight, further proving that the majority of people that live between the two coasts are dumb as bricks and can't see the world beyond their gas station and local chicken spot. I feel like throwing the tv out the window. If any of you voted tea party tonight, go bury your head in the sand. You fucked us, as were headedback to bombing and murdering for democracy.

ill agree with ya Seckle. But put the blame on all ur people who didnt vote! out of everyone i know, only 3 people voted......

RIP obama's ability to do anything...

hello lame duck presidency and inevitable swing back to the rich white pro-war side

I'm almost certain Whitney isn't going to win in illinois... But I'm glad I voted for him and that someone like him has a practical plan to fix this fucked state. Watching him in debates was enlightening and at the same time hilarious because the dem/rep candidates basically said the same fucking things the whole time.

seckle wrote:We're fucking doomed. Team Stupid won tonight, further proving that the majority of people that live between the two coasts are dumb as bricks and can't see the world beyond their gas station and local chicken spot. I feel like throwing the tv out the window. If any of you voted tea party tonight, go bury your head in the sand. You fucked us, as were headedback to bombing and murdering for democracy.

The vast majority of our exports, agg, industrial work, energy development, etc come from red states.

If Texas left the USA and took their taxes and industry it would be equal to that of the original 13 colonies. You're stuck with team stupid.

The problem is, our democratic leaders did absolute shit over the past 2 years, which is just long enough for people to attribute some of the blame to Obama.

The democrats have great individual politicians, but as a force we're seemingly fucking retarded. Frustrated by the results, but far from surprised. From an election standpoint Republicans are just light years ahead of Dems. If they can get Bush elected twice, mid terms are fucking childs play

republicans and tea party voters, please explain yourselves. i can't wait to hear this.

pkay wrote:

seckle wrote:We're fucking doomed. Team Stupid won tonight, further proving that the majority of people that live between the two coasts are dumb as bricks and can't see the world beyond their gas station and local chicken spot. I feel like throwing the tv out the window. If any of you voted tea party tonight, go bury your head in the sand. You fucked us, as were headedback to bombing and murdering for democracy.

The vast majority of our exports, agg, industrial work, energy development, etc come from red states.

If Texas left the USA and took their taxes and industry it would be equal to that of the original 13 colonies. You're stuck with team stupid.

The problem is, our democratic leaders did absolute shit over the past 2 years, which is just long enough for people to attribute some of the blame to Obama.

The democrats have great individual politicians, but as a force we're seemingly fucking retarded. Frustrated by the results, but far from surprised. From an election standpoint Republicans are just light years ahead of Dems. If they can get Bush elected twice, mid terms are fucking childs play

any government coming in after bush would've been crippled by finances. lets be real. obama faced the most difficult fiscal challenges of the last 3 decades. sure, he could've done it better, but seriously, he's done a lot with what he could manage. i'd like to see a republican do what he accomplished with healthcare alone!

The problem is that americans have such a short attention span and decide to remember 2 out of the last 10 years

seckle wrote:any government coming in after bush would've been crippled by finances. lets be real. obama faced the most difficult fiscal challenges of the last 3 decades. sure, he could've done it better, but seriously, he's done a lot with what he could manage. i'd like to see a republican do what he accomplished with healthcare alone!

the fact that people really think our economic state is a direct result of obama's policies is what makes this so horrifying to me...

and the fact that people honestly think the health care bill is against their interests...

Interesting opinion piece (despite a side helping of cheese):



I do wonder whether this is actually a fair representation or just lamentations of a marginalised left *sigh*

seckle wrote:We're fucking doomed. Team Stupid won tonight, further proving that the majority of people that live between the two coasts are dumb as bricks and can't see the world beyond their gas station and local chicken spot. I feel like throwing the tv out the window. If any of you voted tea party tonight, go bury your head in the sand. You fucked us, as were headedback to bombing and murdering for democracy.

my fav post from seckle ever...

reposting this from earlier coz its great

http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

so when things get worse can we shift the blame on the tard err tea party? maybe we can get some moderate politics and third party shit going on finally and fix some shit instead of just constantly shifting blame and from one party to the other?
who am i kidding american politics as usual. the one thing you can always count on the right wing is they always turn up to vote, unfortunately can't say that about a good chunk of the youth democratic or third party voters, maybe some of the idiots who will spend tomorrow bitching about the results that didn't go out to vote will finally wake up.

alien pimp wrote:

seckle wrote:We're fucking doomed. Team Stupid won tonight, further proving that the majority of people that live between the two coasts are dumb as bricks and can't see the world beyond their gas station and local chicken spot. I feel like throwing the tv out the window. If any of you voted tea party tonight, go bury your head in the sand. You fucked us, as were headedback to bombing and murdering for democracy.

my fav post from seckle ever...

I'm very close to agreeing with you there Pimp.
And everybody else on here.
Similar to our Labor government...can't get the message through the big-business media and get crucified for any slip-ups in progressive programmes, so become reform-averse.

seckle wrote:

pkay wrote:

seckle wrote:We're fucking doomed. Team Stupid won tonight, further proving that the majority of people that live between the two coasts are dumb as bricks and can't see the world beyond their gas station and local chicken spot. I feel like throwing the tv out the window. If any of you voted tea party tonight, go bury your head in the sand. You fucked us, as were headedback to bombing and murdering for democracy.

The vast majority of our exports, agg, industrial work, energy development, etc come from red states.

If Texas left the USA and took their taxes and industry it would be equal to that of the original 13 colonies. You're stuck with team stupid.

The problem is, our democratic leaders did absolute shit over the past 2 years, which is just long enough for people to attribute some of the blame to Obama.

The democrats have great individual politicians, but as a force we're seemingly fucking retarded. Frustrated by the results, but far from surprised. From an election standpoint Republicans are just light years ahead of Dems. If they can get Bush elected twice, mid terms are fucking childs play

any government coming in after bush would've been crippled by finances. lets be real. obama faced the most difficult fiscal challenges of the last 3 decades. sure, he could've done it better, but seriously, he's done a lot with what he could manage. i'd like to see a republican do what he accomplished with healthcare alone!

I really hate this argument. The economic collapse began early in the bush administration and likely would have happened regardless (not to the extent, but would have happened). The war compounded it, but we weren't in good shape after .com bubble burst. We're in this position because of multiple decades of speculative trading, bad loans, and subprime loans that began in the mid to late 90's when everyone thought they were going to be rich and found out there was a ceiling to the growth.

This mentality that we can blame bush for everything is exactly why we got fucking murdered tonight. The thing to pay attention to is that literally all the ground Obama made in red states is fucking gone. The country is back to Regan-era divisions. Losing Pennsylvania like we did is catastrophic.

As a party we have to do some real fucking work in the next 18 months. We need to arm Obama with as much firepower as we can before he's in full campaign mode. He needs an insane level of production over the next year and half or 2012 is going to peg hard red again. Tonight wasn't as much of a pro-republican vote as it was an anti-democrat vote.

this thread's missing something...