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sound man
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:33 pm
by curly123
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOSUbYmU ... iv-1r-1-HM
Im sure a lot of stick will probably come with this post but ah well.
I just wanted to know if anyone has any tips or ideas (as im an amateur) on how to create the second bass that comes in the tune, the one with less attack on it and sounds a little more metallic
cheers, and big ups to vivek by the way, massive tune

Re: sound man
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:47 pm
by Basic A
Ramp/Saw wave LFO's on the cutoff, over a distorted reese, bit of post filter distortion if your feeling bold...
Re: sound man
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:23 pm
by curly123
it was the wrong bass that you gave me mate but i appreciate it, i made a pretty nice patch with it. You have any ideas for the harder bass?
Re: sound man
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:33 pm
by Basic A
curly123 wrote:it was the wrong bass that you gave me mate but i appreciate it, i made a pretty nice patch with it. You have any ideas for the harder bass?
giv me an exact time marker its occuring in, the only attack haivng metallic sound I here there is a ramp lfo over some kinda distorted patch
:Edit, I just listened to the entire tune, I hear that and a modified hoover.
Re: sound man
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:40 pm
by curly123
Basic A wrote:curly123 wrote:it was the wrong bass that you gave me mate but i appreciate it, i made a pretty nice patch with it. You have any ideas for the harder bass?
giv me an exact time marker its occuring in, the only attack haivng metallic sound I here there is a ramp lfo over some kinda distorted patch
:Edit, I just listened to the entire tune, I hear that and a modified hoover.
0:50
Re: sound man
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:20 pm
by Basic A
curly123 wrote:Basic A wrote:curly123 wrote:it was the wrong bass that you gave me mate but i appreciate it, i made a pretty nice patch with it. You have any ideas for the harder bass?
giv me an exact time marker its occuring in, the only attack haivng metallic sound I here there is a ramp lfo over some kinda distorted patch
:Edit, I just listened to the entire tune, I hear that and a modified hoover.
0:50
At 50 seconds in you have the ramp LFO thing, and a really really fast lfo'd white noise sweep.
Re: sound man
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:01 am
by DJ Crackle
Fuck me, I wish I could break down sounds like that with a quick listen...
Re: sound man
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:45 am
by Basic A
DJ Crackle wrote:Fuck me, I wish I could break down sounds like that with a quick listen...
Its generally quite hard, if your working with talented synthesists... Im still, years in, trying to replicate the synth Mujava used in Township Funk... And damn'd if I could make synth sax's like joker can... but some of these bass patches are common concepts really dude... The ramp lfo/rhythmic gate's been around since psytrance, the reese underneath has been there since... well the dawn of EDM... and you combine the two and viola! $$$ ...
The VAST majority of EDM is built around simple enough concepts, its all about creative application of them...
Re: sound man
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:14 pm
by curly123
yeah i really appreciate your reply man you obviously know what you're doing, i just think im not advanced enough as a producer to do precisely what you have suggested but yeah, cheers
Re: sound man
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:15 pm
by Basic A
curly123 wrote:yeah i really appreciate your reply man you obviously know what you're doing, i just think im not advanced enough as a producer to do precisely what you have suggested but yeah, cheers
What DAW are you using?
What synths?
Re: sound man
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:40 pm
by curly123
Im on reason (yes i havnt invested in logic yet) and im the most comfortable with thor but i can use the other synths a little
Re: sound man
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:47 pm
by Basic A
curly123 wrote:Im on reason (yes i havnt invested in logic yet) and im the most comfortable with thor but i can use the other synths a little
Ehhh I wish I could help you man, reason is a completely different ballpark from real DAWs though...
Re: sound man
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:51 pm
by curly123
fair enough, hopefully a reason user will decide to help me out

Re: sound man
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:24 pm
by OlzaMK
Its kind of all the same concept. You just have to look at it like, "how would I achieve that sound if I had rackmounted outboard gear?"
It's a neat idea, but I think it defeats the purpose of going digital for managing audio.
Re: sound man
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:52 am
by curly123
its just when i put the lfo on the filter it doesnt sound very hard , its still sounding too smooth
Re: sound man
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:54 am
by Basic A
curly123 wrote:its just when i put the lfo on the filter it doesnt sound very hard , its still sounding too smooth
What do you mean hard/smooth? Distort it.
Re: sound man
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:48 pm
by curly123
problem solved, the env. on the filter of the reese too low, lacked a bit of crunch. Thanks for your tuting mate!
Re: sound man
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:58 pm
by AL4228
Basic A wrote:curly123 wrote:Im on reason (yes i havnt invested in logic yet) and im the most comfortable with thor but i can use the other synths a little
Ehhh I wish I could help you man, reason is a completely different ballpark from real DAWs though...
haha, "real daws" you kids on DSF crack me up

Re: sound man
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:35 pm
by -[2]DAY_-
Why? Reason isn't a DAW. standalone, it is a midi production suite, and reWired, it is a massive VSTi with dedicated midi sequencer.
i love Reason! it's not a digital audio workstation.
Re: sound man
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:07 pm
by AL4228
-[2]DAY_- wrote:Why? Reason isn't a DAW. standalone, it is a midi production suite, and reWired, it is a massive VSTi with dedicated midi sequencer.
i love Reason! it's not a digital audio workstation.
Ahhh your so right

It's got nothing to do with digital audio. I mean it's not like you can use digital synthesisers within reason, create drum loops, use samples, and play with a mixer... The only thing this is good for is makeing fun of and looking at all the cool color coded stuff!!!!!
Reason is a DAW just as any other... FL, Logic, Ableton, Acid, Cubase, etc... It's also a very effective plug in (i'll give you that one

). Those who bash it are most likely ones that fail with it
