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I picked up some Qualided tunes the over week and I have to admit I’m really starting to get I to the whole bassline thing but I have to admit I don’t know much about the scene or who ells is out there…

Is there any over dubsteppers who are feeling theses sorts of tunes as well…

surly I cant be the only one.



big up people.

Yeah im down for basslines

If it werent for them, i'd probably be lying in a ditch somewhere

So Huzzah for the bayyse loiiiiiiiiiineeee

if you're talkin about that 4x4/bassline/ "urban" (<-- how condescending) house... no, i don't like it.

Is bassline house the same as the old speed garage? Or is this tropical or whutever the fuck it's called now?

Was amazed to check Juno and find that there's still quite a few people doing 4/4 garage but it mostly sounds like kiddie raver music

Daluq - Oriental Express
Agent X - Turbulance
So Solid - Dilema
^my bassline roots^

edit : and GC-Masterplan! on of my first blines

flaviano wrote:if you're talkin about that 4x4/bassline/ "urban" (<-- how condescending) house... no, i don't like it.

i sure am!

pitty you dont like it your missing out bro there is some heavy tunes out there.

tronman wrote: GC-Masterplan! on of my first blines

Not one of the first for me but definitely one of the best

My first would probably be Stamina by Dream Team (old sub base classic) but I think my fave would be Dubplate Circles (boooooooooooooooooooooooo-woo-wuh booooooooooooooooooooooooh wum wum wum wum - for those that need to recognize)

Shonky wrote:Is bassline house the same as the old speed garage?

nah man, it's not. 9 out of 10 basslinehouse tunes is s*it me thinks. gotta big up the true ukg heads for still making ruff tunes though; mj cole, qualifide, karl brown, artifact, dj $ki, alessandro, solution & mr pud, jeremy sylvester.....

Little discussion in the other music section: http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15876
Consensus seems to be that it's just speed garage rebranded so promoters can put on nights.

Anyway, I bought the DJ Q EP on more2dafloor recently, and it's pretty good. It's a bit silly, but it's got better wobble bass than most of the coki knockoffs from last year. I thought it was 4x4, but it could quite easily be bassline. Old speed garage, I know nothing.

Furiouz wrote:

Shonky wrote:Is bassline house the same as the old speed garage?

nah man, it's not. 9 out of 10 basslinehouse tunes is s*it me thinks.

so very true... i find this a lot with electro, basslinehouse, and 4x4 too but when a dj gets it right it can work so damn well. Of course there is a limit on how much I can listen to in one go but if you pull out the odd tune I find it can really work well with dubstep just to switch the mood abit…

like 4linehaiku said alot of it can be a bit silly but i all ways find it Fascinating to hear new riddems and ideas about music...

Not feeling it at all really although the occasional tune is good.

Very big in Leeds and the North scene went down for a minute after its 2 big clubs in Leeds and Sheffield got shut down in drugs busts. The Sheffield one (Niche i think) has recently reopened.

Got to give it to them that it does go off in a rave.

for the people not feeling

check out: www.qualifide.co.uk

and listen to:

Qualifide featuring Jason H - Badman Revisted
Badman (Bassline Remix) (the skream remix is heavy too)

Qualifide - Deep In My Heart (Angry Remix)

big big tunes...

musty dust wrote:for the people not feeling

check out: www.qualifide.co.uk

and listen to:

Qualifide featuring Jason H - Badman Revisted
Badman (Bassline Remix) (the skream remix is heavy too)

Qualifide - Deep In My Heart (Angry Remix)

big big tunes...

Agreed. Qualifide's a don! Btw, actually feelin Sticky - "Dr Who" on More 2 da floor.

cogi wrote:The Sheffield one (Niche i think) has recently reopened.

yuk.

Re-opened since its closure? good riddence I say.

Bassline is very big in nottingham. Most places ban it cuz it just gets too hype. Im good friends with a producer called VIRGO. He used to make beats for a.r.m.y records like the clack riddim etc. He makes bassline now among other types of music. Im slowly trying to convert him over to dubstep. lol
Bassline or "niche" as everyone calls it up these sides has taken off propper. Whenever there is a niche dance your garrenteed nuff gal there.
As i say peps just get too hype tho.
The vibe is there with bassline. Reminds me of oldskool garage but more bass and a 4x4 beat.

I think there's a world of difference between the creme da la creme of Qualifide type productions (El-B did a good tune for the label recently) and the Bassline House stuff.

As someone who thinks 94-98 4 to the floor stuff was one of the best eras in Garage (perhaps even on par with current Dubstep), I'm very dissapointed in the type of 4/4 tunes that are getting made now. A lot of them sound like plus 4 at their original speed, far too fast. The whole point of the original garage tunes was that the complicated drum patterns meant the constant kick was never boring.

To me too many of the new tunes have lost all the elements that made the original garage tunes good. The 'basslines' are far too crude, the vocal samples are usually shitty. In short, they're like how a Trance or Hard House producer would go about making a Garage tune.

But I'm talking about the really terrible stuff here, like the Knight rider tune and that. While I'm often unimpressed with MJ Cole's & wideboys et al's current output, I know they are capable of churning out some good stuff.

Any recomendations for good bassline would be sweet. I don't think anyone plays those records around my way... even if I did go out a lot. I like the Dj Narrowz stuff I have heard and I heard one Dj Q thing... I'll have to look for that ep. Alot of the stuff I have heard sounds like shite but there does seem to be some potential.

owengriffiths wrote:But I'm talking about the really terrible stuff here, like the Knight rider tune and that.

I've heard that remix. I was listening to a bassline mix and thinking 'This is a bit chessy', when suddenly a Knight Rider remix comes in. It was just so fitting that I had no choice but to enjoy it. Not exactly a great tune though, I'll admit.
Fancy pointing me to a good 94-98 4/4 Garage mix? I don't really have any reference for this stuff.

It's a little late at the moment for me to think up of something but I will try to come up with some ideas in sensible hours. The problem is there were a fair amount of compos released but few of them had the real wow factor.

Locked On Vol 1 (from 96 or 97) mixed by Todd Edwards was very good, I think I could have that uploaded onto the net sometime this week. It's very expensive if ever found on Ebay (I payed a tenner for the tape version, the CD one can reach the likes of 20 or 30 quid). I'll give you a PM when I put it up, probably say in this thread as well. There's no sin in bootlegging if the record label has no intention of rereleasing stuff.

If you want to buy things at the moment then there are 2 CD's that are availiable (I think) in Uptown Records. Noodles (one half of Groove Chronicles) released a CD called Old Skool Garage Classics which was pretty special. There's a more recent one called Joe Old Skool, which is good. The important thing about these CD's is that they include many tracks that are brilliant but are more or less forgotten/undiscovered classics, as far too many obvious tunes keep on popping up on too many CD's. Not that they aren't good or that, but you can get a little bored of having the same tune on 8 compilations.

One thing to take into consideration with the Old Skool Garage stuff is that a portion of it is really just New York House, but it's the classy kind of American House that appealed to a London audience. The less obvious tracks often come from the American heritage.

Maybe this site isn't the most suitable place to share this kind of stuff but I'll get to work as there are few enough places to hear it (bar london pirates) as it is.