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Wiley on Twitter, Nov 14 2010 wrote:I mean in terms of being able to cross over grime is alive cos dubstep flew past it that's what I mean

reminds me of things hotly debated on rwd, rinse and dsf forums...3-5 years ago, where any mention of this sort of thing would be WW3 and all the toys out the pram about it.

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Dubstep probably did help keep grime alive.

I was never into grime but heard a few tracks because dj's like plastician, ect was dropping them into his sets.

Also when i donloaded sets from FWD and other nights from like 2005/06 they had people like boy better know spittin of dmz tunes, that made me check out these artists and then obv dug a little deeper and now 5 years later i really like a grime and buy mixtapes and albums all the time.

probably true tbh

i'm sure a lot of grime's current popularity is much like the upsurgence of uk funky in that a lot of the jaded dubstep fans are turning to something else, and with grime there's no tempo lowering to put people off either. that's not to say that it wouldn't have happened otherwise of course

badger wrote:probably true tbh

i'm sure a lot of grime's current popularity is much like the upsurgence of uk funky in that a lot of the jaded dubstep fans are turning to something else, and with grime there's no tempo lowering to put people off either. that's not to say that it wouldn't have happened otherwise of course

interesting how dubstep was the genre people turned too when they got disillusioned with how kah other genres were becoming....and of course, people are turning away from dubstep.


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Wiley is a fool. Can't take him seriously. Who's seen his uStream? he lives his life on there!
Grime is alive because it's a different genre, not because dubstep 'flew past it'. The two cross over but they are different. All dance music crosses over. But it's not like you'd say "DnB is alive because house flew past it" is it? Dumb.

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lol, spelling police fail. 'flew past'.

Grime is definitely picking up again, but I tire of hearing of hearing great Grime MC's over mediocre brostep/electro beats. P-money is classic example, both the Sweetshop and the his Slang tune (with the most boring chorus line ever, man had the chance to re do Big L's Ebonics for modern day and it would've been beserk).

Sparxy, you wouldn't say that because House and DnB didn't grow up/through each other/together. The commonalities they share are few and far between. Where as Grime and Dubstep both came from Garage, both emerged in a comparable time, both have a strong cross section of artists who produce both or lie in the hazy area where people find it hard to distinguish one from the other.

Still ain't heard a proper grime tune since Woo riddim I guess? Even then it was more the badman vocals that were about for it. More SX, Silencer, Bless beats etc, please.

P-Money on Silencer's DirtBag >>> Any other P-money tune.

Sparxy wrote:Wiley is a fool. Can't take him seriously. Who's seen his uStream? he lives his life on there!
Grime is alive because it's a different genre, not because dubstep 'flew past it'. The two cross over but they are different. All dance music crosses over. But it's not like you'd say "DnB is alive because house flew past it" is it? Dumb.

Dubstep has made more people interested in UK based sound system music that isn't dnb. UKG, rave, funky and grime are getting more attention now than they did a few years ago because of all these dubstep producers referencing those styles.

It's the energy and dirtyness of the more jump up side of dubstep that fits with a lot of grime mc's like a glove.

You can't really brush off Sugh Knight as brostep Pete. Slang Like This gets the dancefloor bumping each and every.

hellfire machina wrote:It's the energy and dirtyness of the more jump up side of dubstep that fits with a lot of grime mc's like a glove.

You can't really brush off Sugh Knight as brostep Pete. Slang Like This gets the dancefloor bumping each and every.

I don't understand, I just double checked the beat to make sure I hadn't heard some remix, the beat has all the trademarks, the angry aggressive mid range, lfo'd synths, a straight beat and like you say is a dancefloor beat. What separates it from what you consider to be brostep / filth / etc. ?

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lol, spelling police fail. 'flew past'.

Grime is definitely picking up again, but I tire of hearing of hearing great Grime MC's over mediocre brostep/electro beats. P-money is classic example, both the Sweetshop and the his Slang tune (with the most boring chorus line ever, man had the chance to re do Big L's Ebonics for modern day and it would've been beserk).

Sparxy, you wouldn't say that because House and DnB didn't grow up/through each other/together. The commonalities they share are few and far between. Where as Grime and Dubstep both came from Garage, both emerged in a comparable time, both have a strong cross section of artists who produce both or lie in the hazy area where people find it hard to distinguish one from the other.

Still ain't heard a proper grime tune since Woo riddim I guess? Even then it was more the badman vocals that were about for it. More SX, Silencer, Bless beats etc, please.

P-Money on Silencer's DirtBag >>> Any other P-money tune.

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http://www.sendspace.com/file/6p42gz

http://www.sendspace.com/file/b0op6z

http://www.sendspace.com/file/1cqe28

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