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Phase block - ni massive

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:18 pm
by joerienal
I'm new into music production and picked up massive a week ago.
Reading the manual for now, to get a good basis of the vst.

The thing I don't understand is: the phases of the oscillators, what does this mean exactly?
If i would understand what the 'phases of the oscillators' are i know i'd understand the whole phase block under the osc tab.
I know it's a beginners questions and since my english isn't that good i'd ask it here for better explination than the manual.

thanks in advance anyway!

peace

Re: Phase block - ni massive

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:23 pm
by decklyn
Phase is where a waveform starts and ends. If we're talking about a square it might look like this:
_-
if you adjust the phase of the waveform then it would look like this
-_
If you played the two examples together they would cancel each other out and you would hear nothing

Re: Phase block - ni massive

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:38 pm
by joerienal
Alright thanks, helped me along

Re: Phase block - ni massive

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:15 am
by Recessive Trait
"put down" the manual, right now.

open massive, play some notes whilst playing around with the wavetable position knob. pick a nice fun osc like scrapyard or acid.

isn't that more fun and more educational than reading the manual. go on, my son.

Re: Phase block - ni massive

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:17 am
by amphibian
Recessive Trait wrote:"put down" the manual, right now.

open massive, play some notes whilst playing around with the wavetable position knob. pick a nice fun osc like scrapyard or acid.

isn't that more fun and more educational than reading the manual. go on, my son.
People learn in different ways.

Kudos to him for actually wanting to know what's going on rather than...

"WANNA MAKE WOBBLEZ! HELP!!!"

Re: Phase block - ni massive

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:20 am
by Recessive Trait
no doubt.

Re: Phase block - ni massive

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:54 am
by thefrim
when massive is set on restart via gate the phase bit is really good to make variations on a bass. move one of them back and forth with multiple distorted oscs and it makes different harmonics come out

Re: Phase block - ni massive

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:20 am
by Mannyyyyy
okay so the phase modulation in massive is changing the wavetable around? if thats what it does then what does the position modulation knob do O.o

im so confused

Re: Phase block - ni massive

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:31 am
by amphibian
thefrim wrote:when massive is set on restart via gate the phase bit is really good to make variations on a bass. move one of them back and forth with multiple distorted oscs and it makes different harmonics come out
This also helps to avoid the constant (and sometimes odd) change in sound when detuning waves, as well. Ensures it maintains an element of consistency as it morphs. If that makes sense.

Re: Phase block - ni massive

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:10 am
by MKRUGGER
Low Pass 2 Filter.

Link LFO to Cutoff.

Wobbles.
:middlefinger:
:mrt: :rules: :strooper: :corncry: :6: :4:

Re: Phase block - ni massive

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:36 am
by casual-p
amphibian wrote:
Recessive Trait wrote:"put down" the manual, right now.

open massive, play some notes whilst playing around with the wavetable position knob. pick a nice fun osc like scrapyard or acid.

isn't that more fun and more educational than reading the manual. go on, my son.
People learn in different ways.

Kudos to him for actually wanting to know what's going on rather than...

"WANNA MAKE WOBBLEZ! HELP!!!"
its pretty important to learn imo, very quick and easy to understand if you google of wikipedia and itll help you to properly layer up waveforms