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Music for dubsteppas

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:48 am
by m9918868
Inspired by Dubway's jolly good hint. Here are my recommendations:

ambient/illbient: try some Dj Spooky, for example (forget about BoC) or even some Jah Wobble, Bill Laswell, ...///so-called broken beats: all breakbeat should be broken, but anyway ... check out Tipper (on this site, you'll find my favourite of last and this year). Si Begg, some old iLs are big names here, but the newer 30hz & Entity are more than recommendable as well///electro: some really valuable stuff on the Satamile label///try some decent minimal/dub techno: Force Inc, german offspring of the former Mille Plateau label, is the name here for me. Jetone, Donnacha Costello, Geoff White & Stewart Walker ... But you could go as well for some filthy shit (new Funkstörung is great and real dirty, btw). Even Speedy J would be something to try out///get even some breakcore: apart from the prolly too obvious Dj/Rupture, why don't try Duende. I saw Duende posting on this space, his music rocks. check it.

Anyway, there is really enough music. Don't stick too purism. As I mentioned on another forum yet, purism combined with dubplate culture results too often in just boring, all-the-same-sounding mixes.

Maybe i should change my avatar to "Say yes to other music as well"?
:roll:

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:58 am
by paulie
the new Modeselektor album is heavy.

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:00 am
by r33lc4sh
2 most influential things for me:
Toires - dubby downtempo breaks with moroccan flavour
Wasteland - noise, dub, industrial, downtemp breaks by one and only duo DJ Scud and I-Sound

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:04 am
by dubmugga
we got some wicked electronica acts of a dubby/trippy/hippy hoppy/downbeat nature...

stuff like Basscamp, Fat freddys drop, Sola rosa, Rhian Sheehan, tha feelstyle

...have good look and listen round this site prolly 50% of it is kiwi and the rest is foreign muck :roll:

http://www.smokecds.com/category/30

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:12 am
by m9918868
Let me add this label, which seems to me a fuckin' top notch label. I've been listening to this clip for two hours non-stop now and it rocks my socks real hard.

Dude, where is my visa... 8)

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:16 am
by legba
some stuff I think is worth checking.

http://www.betabodega.com (some clips on boomkat)
http://www.sound-ink.com
http://www.tigerbeat6.com (esp the shockout releases)
http://myspace.com/crunctesla

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:09 pm
by dubway
latest non-dubstep (but still dubstep related) records i bought were:
THE BUG (FEATURING WARRIOR QUEEN) - Dem A Bomb We
VARIOUS PRODUCTION - Hater / Byker

i like Fire Hydrant - Jammer (on pinch mix) and i would like to hear more grime like that (if there is any...) - so please give me some tips..

+ i would like to hear some advices in berlin techno-dub, BC, detroit, dub, dancehall and micro(?) house

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:13 pm
by dubmugga
hell yeah...

... big up teh stormfield and teh bug

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:32 pm
by m9918868
Well, what the dub concerns: all depends which dub you want. If you like your dub classic, i warmly recommend 'king jammy meets dry & heavy - in the jaws of the tiger'. If you like it a bit more up-to-date (not that king jammy would sound updated, but still it's from somewhere in the sixties-seventies, i presume), you could check all releases on the ~scape label. Esp. Pole is great. His gigs are amazing as well.

For the (Berlin) dub-techno, check above mentioned Force Inc (the glitchy Mikael Stavöstrand, for instance). Deadbeat's sound could be in a certain way called related and released quite some worthy albums on ~scape. Check Jan Jelinek as well (~scape, Klang, ...). Donnacha Costello is the niciest micro house, i know. But I read good things about David Donohoe as well.

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:39 pm
by m9918868
I forgot... you should urgently check out the system - untitled album, it's fuckin' amazing.

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:13 pm
by bze
Something which might interest you;

Scorn is something like dark, minimal instrumental hiphop. Amazing haunting soundscapes combined with deep growling dnb-type bass-sounds and slow, catchy beats.

Xingu Hill's material ranges from glitchy dark ambience to epic breakcore/triphop madness. Early material is "Squarepusher-type" weird (and a bit boring) acid but later stuff is more reminiscent to the soundscapes of Future Sound of London.

Larvae is like the latter but not so complex / complicated. Heavy beats.

Judging by my opinion, Enduser is the uncrowned king of breakcore. Not the freaked-out-and-fucked-up type but very sophisticated and almost danceable blend of breakcore action.

Checking out labels Hymen and Ad Noiseam highly recommended.

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:58 pm
by r33lc4sh
bze wrote:Something which might interest you;
Xingu Hill's material ranges from glitchy dark ambience to epic breakcore/triphop madness. Early material is "Squarepusher-type" weird (and a bit boring) acid but later stuff is more reminiscent to the soundscapes of Future Sound of London.
Checking out labels Hymen and Ad Noiseam highly recommended.
Xingu Hill kicks ass!! :D
try his collaboration with panacea

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:43 pm
by ghettobot
big up WASTELAND, thusly speeding my arrival at duBstep.
big up subrosa, CABARET VOLTAIRE and WE.
big up-waaaaay up- to KING TUBBY, LKJ & SCIENTIST.
the fullness to COIL & AFRICAN HEAD CHARGE!

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:52 pm
by subframe
Nice to see Donnacha Costello et al coming up here - 'Everything happens only a certain number of times' is killer. Mikael Stavostrand + the Mitek camp is big, in that very minimal way, too. If you can stand a bit of pop, the first two MRI albums are pretty kick ass.

Some stuff on Sender is amazing - check out Baby Ford's offering...

Speedy J's A Shocking Hobby remains, in my mind, possibly the finest piece of electronic music I know of. Immensely powerful, well before it's time, and almost completely overshadowed by Public Energy No. 1.

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:35 pm
by datura
A few things not mentioned..

On the instrumental side, the 3 Kaman Leung 12"s on Lacerated are heavy..hip-hop with a hardcore influence, really amazing studff..i think he was also responsible for the Special Blends 12" which mixed hip-hop with D&B b-lines..you should be able to find audion on boomkat..i heard some dubby stuff he's done and it's really good.. some info here http://www.lacerated.co.uk/

the Mutamassik lp on Sound Ink is really good..fuses eastern samples with hip-hop and d&b..the Shotgun Wedding mix she did with Dj/Rupture is also worth checking..

on the hip-hop side, there's a canadian gut called Noah23 who I really like..he's been heavily influenced in style by d&b mc's and some of his stuff fuses jungle & hip-hop..check the Quicksand lp..really dope stuff..the Orko - Atoms of Eden set is also really cool in the same vein..

on the dub side, you should really check a lot of the Wackies..as well as any King Tubby, Augustus Pablo (you'll hear a lot of the far east sound he pioneered along with people like Don Drummond in Mystikz stuff in particular)..i'll dig through my collection and recommend a few things..the Blood & Fire dub albums are all worth checking http://www.bloodandfire.co.uk

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:01 pm
by m9918868
bze wrote:Scorn is something like dark, minimal instrumental hiphop. Amazing haunting soundscapes combined with deep growling dnb-type bass-sounds and slow, catchy beats.
True, his Logghi Barrogghi -amongst others- is one of my all-time favourites.
ghettobot wrote:big up subrosa
Word!!! Above the other artists i mentioned, they released DJ Wally, who made some really amazing things at the time. And this label is from Brussels. 8)

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:11 pm
by zefa
Paulie wrote:the new Modeselektor album is heavy.
Seconded...rude album...all there stuff is sick tho!! :twisted:

Music for dubsteppas...

Basic Channel 1-9
All the Burial Mix back cat
All the Wackies back cat released by BC
All the Basic Replay back cat released by BC Ijahman Levi and Keith Hudson, Jackie Mittoo etc
M series - my personal fave is M7 - can get lost in that tune, truly awsome.
Stuff by Deadbeat - particularly the album - New world observer
Bluetrain back cat - wicked dub tunes by Steve O'Sullivan
Deepchord stuff - in a similar vein to Basic Channel but deeper
Rod Modell's stuff solo and with Deepchord
Carsten Nicolai and the stuff on Raster Noton - all of it - truly minimal electronics.
Twilight Circus dub stuff - wicked!!

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:50 am
by casino addict
Mathhead, Tipper, Bernd Friedmann (and anything on Nonplace), Pole, Si Begg, the Staedtizism compilations on ~scape, Bitstream, Scorn, Sutekh, Basic Channel, Ardisson.

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:58 am
by bze
r33lc4sh wrote: try his collaboration with panacea
XHM2? Excellent stuff. M2 is cool too.

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:06 am
by dub boy
I'm actually a dancehall & ragga dj by trade and listen to this more than dubstep (though I'm loving dubstep of course!)

Recent purchases i would reccommend are The Bugs 'Dem A Bomb We', pretty much anything on Grimey or Ice Cube riddims, and the latest South Rakkas riddim... 'Bionic Ras'. Fits quite happily in Grime sets.

Also feeling the new Dave Kelly remix of M.I.A.'s 'galang'