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Why are dubstep fans against Mainstream so Much? Like you guys DONT want to see Dubstep get popular. That is backwards thinking. And you all seem to be ANTI-money. What the fuck is that??? Like if any music you like starts to make any form of income you get your hater panties in a bunch.

I LOVE dubstep, but to all u sitting there saying pop is horrible music and everything in the mainstream is wack yadda yadda...hate to break it to u...but a hit dubstep song is often made by 1 guy sitting behind a computer tweaking a programs knobs. Katy Perry, bruno mars hit songs take TEAMS of musicians and writers. Would I rather bump bruno mars over Datsik? Of course not, Im not a faggat. But I would never say Bruno Mars is Horrible music cuz the reality is it takes a TEAM of talented MUSICIANS producers and song writers to make that shit.

Dubstep going Mainstream would only help the genre stay alive and grow. Why would you want to opress such a great genre? I don't get it, explain please.

Let me just say one terrible horrible thing, as of the past few years not including this current, brostep is going mainstream not dubstep.
At first Dubstep may have been but it's just full of the destroyed mid range sub following tunes lately.

Just my opinion, not gospel.

I'd rather bump the one producer because they might take the time to teach rather than trying to take in so much from all different people.
Take in much more then.

Also on the money, have to make a living somehow.

People hate the "mainstream dubstep" because most of it is bad.

Psyche wrote:People hate the "mainstream dubstep" because most of it is bad.

This is actually the bottom line.

I've had a load to drink tonight so hopefully the following will make sense, I've just thought of this:

Imagine you're a Ferrari enthusiast, you've had a massive passion for their work ever since they started producing sports cars. The reason you had such passion in the first place was because they put in so much hard work and brought loads of originality to an already saturated market which nobody else seemed to bring.
Now imagine a few years later they bring out a very average car to test the waters, to see if it would sell. This car still has some of the things that make Ferrari great, It still has style and character and whatever magic Ferrari has.
Anyway, this car sells bigtime, people still recognise the Ferrari badge and know that it's something special under the bonnet so it's a winner. They've sold more of these cars than any of their previous cars, and made 3X as much profit as they originally did.
So naturally, it's not within their interests to lose money as a company so they start pumping out generic family cars, to increase profits they buy cheaper parts, spend no money developing unique characteristics to their cars and make them appeal to everyone.
At the end of this there is you, half of you is happy that they are growing as a company and making money, but on the other hand you've lost all respect for them. The passion that connected you with them in the first place has gone, they're not doing anything special or respectable, they left behind everything that was so important to them and which made them stand out from the rest and now are purely in the whole thing for the money.
And then you get bitched at constantly for even hinting that they've "sold out". No matter how much you defend yourself with good reason,there will always be people ignorant enough to say that "they're still the same as they ever where" when infact they only ever heard of them once they was on every TV or radio advert.
And then for the most part the cycle continues.

For the record I don't have an interest in cars or Ferrari, it's just the only thing I could think of whilst smashed.
Hoping to god this makes sense...

The problem people have is not stuff getting popular but with a fair amount of the music being bland cheesy crap.

People aren't anti money. People just don't want to hear the music watered down to absolute toss for a quick bit of cash and shallow fame.

It's not anti mainstream, as it's still possible for good tracks to go huge (Distance's falling is going to be released on Island for example, which is a major label in every sense).

True..There are some commercial songs that I really enjoy, like actual well produced songs.
But the truth is 95% of stuff coming out these days in the charts is just plain shit. I'm not they type of guy who's stubborn to they point that they automatically hate it because its on the charts and its popular/mainstream, but I'm not willing to listen/buy a song that is just literally wank

Take Chipmunk for instance, First song I ever heard by him on the radio was actually lyrically impressive. Now he's mainstream, he spits a handful of bars and rhymes tummy with money.

Same with Tinchy and to a lesser extent: Tinie Tempah.
Tinchy used to have some amazing lyrics back in the Ruff Sqwad days and now he's just doing shit pop songs with JLS and people like that.
That "something about your smile" song was really commercial but I love it. He still had it back then.

You can't blame someone for wanting to make money though I suppose...

DannyLifted wrote:Why are dubstep fans against Mainstream so Much? Like you guys DONT want to see Dubstep get popular. That is backwards thinking. And you all seem to be ANTI-money. What the fuck is that??? Like if any music you like starts to make any form of income you get your hater panties in a bunch.

I LOVE dubstep, but to all u sitting there saying pop is horrible music and everything in the mainstream is wack yadda yadda...hate to break it to u...but a hit dubstep song is often made by 1 guy sitting behind a computer tweaking a programs knobs. Katy Perry, bruno mars hit songs take TEAMS of musicians and writers. Would I rather bump bruno mars over Datsik? Of course not, Im not a faggat. But I would never say Bruno Mars is Horrible music cuz the reality is it takes a TEAM of talented MUSICIANS producers and song writers to make that shit.

Dubstep going Mainstream would only help the genre stay alive and grow. Why would you want to opress such a great genre? I don't get it, explain please.

Can't tell if your serious...

You mention Datsik, and you have a system of a down dubstep remix in your signature.

sad people use their taste in music to define them as a person making them far too personally invested in music made by someone else

it's not cool to be a dubstep fan if everyone is a dubstep fan... if your scene becomes too big you get lost amongst the crowd and those sad people I mention feel like they've lost their identity.

Most rational people understand that mainstream music is mainstream because it strikes certain nerves amongst people and can discern that the dubstep scene and the mainstream dance scene are two entirely different things.

Dude

you cant post a soad remix as 'the best dubstep track ever - period.'

then ask that question.

Think it's been summed up already, but a lot of people here just don't like the brostep stuff that has hit the mainstream.

Basically, if Digital Mystikz - Misty Winter was number 1 in the charts, I'd still absolutely love it, but if Boregore or Datsik were sat in a flat, playing their music on pirate radio and only selling a couple of hundred vinyl, I'm STILL not going to like it.

DannyLifted wrote:Why are dubstep fans against Mainstream so Much? Like you guys DONT want to see Dubstep get popular. That is backwards thinking. And you all seem to be ANTI-money. What the fuck is that??? Like if any music you like starts to make any form of income you get your hater panties in a bunch.
TEAMS of musicians and writers. .

There's more to life then money my friend, one day you'll find out!

Btw Teams of musicians and writers? Oh yeah now I recall they can't even make their own music! Pre-made ftw
Just saying the music sucks ain't hating btw, that's called opinions.

garethom wrote:Think it's been summed up already, but a lot of people here just don't like the brostep stuff that has hit the mainstream.

Basically, if Digital Mystikz - Misty Winter was number 1 in the charts, I'd still absolutely love it, but if Boregore or Datsik were sat in a flat, playing their music on pirate radio and only selling a couple of hundred vinyl, I'm STILL not going to like it.

exactly this

if mala made a track that got into the top 10, im pretty sure it'd be a top 10 DUBSTEP track...with amazing production and it'd probably be a timeless classic with a very intense musical element to it, not just 1 key on a keyboard creating a bit crushed high frequency noise with a kick on the 1st and a snare on the 3rd with hi hats placed in between...

distance feat alys b - falling (for example) amazing track - if that goes mainstream, which given its label signing kind of has, deserves it in every right imo, its well produced and its a great song. that is mainstream dubstep to me.

Can OP tell me which DUBSTEP artists are mainstream exactly ? I can only think of 2 right now, and they're artists that put out quality music aswell

The problem i have with it (as most said) its awful badly produced crap. Peeps who have never heard Dubstep will make their opinion of it and judging by most the "Mainstream" stuff out there, their opinion isn't going to be very high imo. Therefore labelling Dubstep as noise etc etc. When it just isn't the case whatsover.

Have you heard that Mode-Step shit? Actually makes me cry. Its that bad it even gives brostep a bad name

Foul Matta wrote:Have you heard that Mode-Step shit? Actually makes me cry. Its that bad it even gives brostep a bad name

Lol I'd looooooooove to know what Tunnidge told them at that UKF night

Haha what happened with Tunnidge and Modestep?

monkers wrote:Haha what happened with Tunnidge and Modestep?

Apparently Tunnidge was at that UKF night and went to see Modestep and tell them his thoughts...