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releasing an EP.
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:03 pm
by filthy_
today was the first ive thought about it. ive got about 4 decent tunes that might be able to pass as actual music at the moment, i was debating sending them out to get professionally mastered. reason being... i dont want to keep fucking with the same tunes until i get them "perfect," or as close to it as possible. it just wont happen as i just started with producing a few months ago.
what you guys think, put my stuff out there and start on new stuff?
and how does one go about releasing an EP, or anything for that matter?
Re: releasing an EP.
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:16 pm
by legend4ry
If you've just started producing a few months ago... Despite how good your tunes are, you won't be able to market your release cause I bet you... 18 out of 20 people won't listen to a track by an artist they don't know.
Contact some blogs, get some exposure like that.. Contact DubSilo they're really great at pushing unknown artists. Maybe contact a free label and put it out free.
My words of wisdom is, even if your tunes are sick as fark, if no DJ is playing them and no one knows your name you'll never make back the money you used for mastering.
Network > promote yourself as an artist > get better at producing > 2-3 years down the line you'll be ready for your first release.
Don't do what everyone does/has done (including myself) and sign to some bullshit label cause they're the first to offer you a deal or release your own tracks when you've only had your foot in the door for a few months.
Re: releasing an EP.
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:55 pm
by filthy_
legend4ry wrote:If you've just started producing a few months ago... Despite how good your tunes are, you won't be able to market your release cause I bet you... 18 out of 20 people won't listen to a track by an artist they don't know.
this is true, i never thought of it like that but there are people, like my self, that search for names they dont know to hear new stuff. im not saying its definite for people to listen to my music but its always a possibility. fortunately/unfortunately for me, im persistently looking on the bright side of things.
legend4ry wrote:Contact some blogs, get some exposure like that.. Contact DubSilo they're really great at pushing unknown artists. Maybe contact a free label and put it out free.
i know a few big bloggers and a dude that runs a radio station, ill definitely start with stuff like that. again, something i never thought of. thanks for that!
ill also look into dubsilo, ive never heard anything about them until now.
legend4ry wrote:My words of wisdom is, even if your tunes are sick as fark, if no DJ is playing them and no one knows your name you'll never make back the money you used for mastering.
i dont care about the money, i do it for my self, for fun. i used to make money writing music, got screwed over some time ago so i dont even think of money.
legend4ry wrote:Network > promote yourself as an artist > get better at producing > 2-3 years down the line you'll be ready for your first release.
facebook is the only thing that came to mind!
legend4ry wrote:Don't do what everyone does/has done (including myself) and sign to some bullshit label cause they're the first to offer you a deal or release your own tracks when you've only had your foot in the door for a few months.
ill keep that in mind. ive never really thought of any of this in those ways so to have everything put into perspective is great!
legendary, thank you!
Re: releasing an EP.
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:05 pm
by legend4ry
Well, the music world isn't going to go away anywhere so don't be in a rush ... If you think your tracks are good enough then send it to DJs and get people to hear your music that way (the easier way, cause it cost people nothing!).
And if in some weird turn of events, by the time you're making tracks what are vinyl worthyor something (not listened to your tracks so they might be?) and dubstep is pretty much dead, then make a new sound - its dance music and its not brain surgery to make another genre if you already have invested a couple of years into making music.
Re: releasing an EP.
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:22 pm
by zerbaman
I agree with legend.
Although, if you feel the same way further down the line, and can't find anylables, bandcamp.com wouldn't be a bad idea. Having some promotion will help no matter what your plans are though, go for that first!
Also, if you want the forum's full verdict, it may not be such a bad idea to let us hear full clips. Jus sayin'

Re: releasing an EP.
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:45 pm
by filthy_
zerbaman wrote:
Also, if you want the forum's full verdict, it may not be such a bad idea to let us hear full clips. Jus sayin'

heres a non dubstep track
Soundcloud
the one in my sig, which is my favorite.
Soundcloud
first attempt with vocal samples hahah
Soundcloud
old tune that i just went over a bit today
Soundcloud
Re: releasing an EP.
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:48 pm
by legend4ry
Honest opinion?
Your mixdowns are awful, it sounds like you've recorded them through a guitar amp into a half decent microphone, its all clippy and the drums ain't sitting in the right place.. That reason alone I wouldn't buy it.
Re: releasing an EP.
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:53 pm
by filthy_
legend4ry wrote:Honest opinion?
Your mixdowns are awful, it sounds like you've recorded them through a guitar amp into a half decent microphone, its all clippy and the drums ain't sitting in the right place.. That reason alone I wouldn't buy it.
i agree about the mixdowns. whats clipping though, im not hearing it to be completely honest. i have somewhat decent monitors, could that be an issue?
Re: releasing an EP.
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:57 pm
by Recessive Trait
you're not ready. patience.
Re: releasing an EP.
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:58 pm
by ascent
stick at it but i'd say don't rush yourself out there because you may end up regretting it
and as legend4ry said, you need to work on your mixdowns
Re: releasing an EP.
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:46 am
by RandoRando
on another note, your wobbles sound pretty good, i assume your using massive from the sound of it, am i right. but yeah work on your levels a little bit and just adding a little more to your songs than just drums and a wobble. Im in the same boat as you trying to get noticed, but the thought of me making music and not getting anyone to hear it kind of puts me in a non productive mood sometimes.
Re: releasing an EP.
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:55 am
by legend4ry
RandoRando wrote:on another note, your wobbles sound pretty good, i assume your using massive from the sound of it, am i right. but yeah work on your levels a little bit and just adding a little more to your songs than just drums and a wobble. Im in the same boat as you trying to get noticed, but the thought of me making music and not getting anyone to hear it kind of puts me in a non productive mood sometimes.
As musicians/producers/beat makers (Whatever you wanna call yourself) of course we have a thirst for people to listen to our music and sometimes it does get us down when we ain't getting new fans and djs playing our music but you must remember that making music is a personal thing even if your motivation is to get noticed/signed/famous/rich...
Remember its you who made the music and you had inspiration to make music which is probably subconscious so don't let the conscious things bring you down... Just do what feels natural when you load up your DAW, stop checking your soundcloud every hour for new comments or plays.. Stop sending music to people and just write music for yourself for a bit, you know make music what YOU would listen to on your own in your bedroom on repeat for hours.
That feeling will go away pretty soon

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Re: releasing an EP.
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:10 am
by 3za
legend4ry wrote:As musicians/producers/beat makers (Whatever you wanna call yourself) of course we have a thirst for people to listen to our music and sometimes it does get us down when we ain't getting new fans and djs playing our music but you must remember that making music is a personal thing even if your motivation is to get noticed/signed/famous/rich...
Remember its you who made the music and you had inspiration to make music which is probably subconscious so don't let the conscious things bring you down... Just do what feels natural when you load up your DAW, stop checking your soundcloud every hour for new comments or plays.. Stop sending music to people and just write music for yourself for a bit, you know make music what YOU would listen to on your own in your bedroom on repeat for hours.
That feeling will go away pretty soon

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If that was not so big, I would sig that.
Re: releasing an EP.
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:45 am
by Debaser1
legend4ry wrote:RandoRando wrote:on another note, your wobbles sound pretty good, i assume your using massive from the sound of it, am i right. but yeah work on your levels a little bit and just adding a little more to your songs than just drums and a wobble. Im in the same boat as you trying to get noticed, but the thought of me making music and not getting anyone to hear it kind of puts me in a non productive mood sometimes.
As musicians/producers/beat makers (Whatever you wanna call yourself) of course we have a thirst for people to listen to our music and sometimes it does get us down when we ain't getting new fans and djs playing our music but you must remember that making music is a personal thing even if your motivation is to get noticed/signed/famous/rich...
Remember its you who made the music and you had inspiration to make music which is probably subconscious so don't let the conscious things bring you down... Just do what feels natural when you load up your DAW, stop checking your soundcloud every hour for new comments or plays.. Stop sending music to people and just write music for yourself for a bit, you know make music what YOU would listen to on your own in your bedroom on repeat for hours.
That feeling will go away pretty soon

.
Lump in throat

Re: releasing an EP.
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:43 am
by filthy_
Recessive Trait wrote:you're not ready. patience.
i see that
ascent wrote:stick at it but i'd say don't rush yourself out there because you may end up regretting it
and as legend4ry said, you need to work on your mixdowns
yeah, mix downs are owning me but i feel like im getting better.
RandoRando wrote:on another note, your wobbles sound pretty good, i assume your using massive from the sound of it, am i right. but yeah work on your levels a little bit and just adding a little more to your songs than just drums and a wobble. Im in the same boat as you trying to get noticed, but the thought of me making music and not getting anyone to hear it kind of puts me in a non productive mood sometimes.
yeah, i do some in massive. my sub bass and when im trying to create something pretty complex that i wouldnt be able to do in es2 (logic). im always productive in music. weather its dubstep/electronic music, marching/orchestral music, hardcore type of music (sort of like metal but less hateful towards god

).
legend4ry wrote:As musicians/producers/beat makers (Whatever you wanna call yourself) of course we have a thirst for people to listen to our music and sometimes it does get us down when we ain't getting new fans and djs playing our music but you must remember that making music is a personal thing even if your motivation is to get noticed/signed/famous/rich...
Remember its you who made the music and you had inspiration to make music which is probably subconscious so don't let the conscious things bring you down... Just do what feels natural when you load up your DAW, stop checking your soundcloud every hour for new comments or plays.. Stop sending music to people and just write music for yourself for a bit, you know make music what YOU would listen to on your own in your bedroom on repeat for hours.
That feeling will go away pretty soon

.
well the whole DAW is feeling more natural to me considering i started writing with sibelius for my highschool orchestra/marching band. but now, i do write for me and only for me. i avidly listen to my music as i write what i want to hear opposed to writing music for someone else or looking for music by someone else that i want. i rarely check my soundcloud in the pursuit of new comments, i only really go on there to update whatever im working on and hear how it sounds outside of logic as well as check out the visual peaks in the waveform to get a better understand on whats going on. ya know?
im not trying to be famous or make money, i make music because its my passion and ive been doing it my whole life. the biggest payment, worth more than any amount of money, is for people to listen. and if no one wants to listen, i still enjoy what i create, from music to visual arts to the car im building. its all for me.
Re: releasing an EP.
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:46 am
by BeastModeForDummies
very well said legend i cant help but to feel very compelled by this statement as a new producer lol
Re: releasing an EP.
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:26 am
by Dreadfunk
legend4ry wrote:dubstep is pretty much dead
Dubstep is about as dead as Rock'n'Roll.
Re: releasing an EP.
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:52 pm
by nnny
Dreadfunk wrote:legend4ry wrote:dubstep is pretty much dead
Dubstep is about as dead as Rock'n'Roll.
He didnt say it was dead. He said if by the time filthy making tracks vinylworthy and it happens to be dead, then to create a new sound

Re: releasing an EP.
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:49 pm
by bum robot
put it out for free and get known!
Re: releasing an EP.
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:57 pm
by HomeNoiseRecord
i like the tune in your sig. doesnt quite suond finished but as legend4ry said, needs a fair bit of work in the mix. to me it just doesnt sound clear enough.