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Wobbles in massive?
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:37 pm
by Genophonics
How do you do this really well in massive? I can't automate the rate in massive for some reason. I'm sure a lot of you know this and it's probably just something you can't do and is other ways around...so I thought well maybe I could throw an auto-filter on there and automate the rate with that instead since it would come after massive in the chain so the signal from massive would be wobbled but....I only get like a half wobble...and half of the signal seems to still be going through...so it's like the wobble and then i can still hear the signal without the wobble....If i just want the whole signal to wobble how would i do this or is there something I'm missing? I find when I don't de-tune it...it usually wobbles more without much of the original signal but I kind of need to de-tune to fatten it up.
Re: Wobbles in massive?
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:59 pm
by brianisdead
Sounds to me like you might need to update your massive. The new version allows you to automate the synced lfo.
Re: Wobbles in massive?
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:20 pm
by Genophonics
Ahhh so that's why, I mean I can still automate the rate just when it's not synced it takes a hell of a lot longer haha
Re: Wobbles in massive?
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:37 pm
by Majin
The reason why you still hear half the clean signal is because you probably have the filters set to 'parallel' and not 'series' so you're feeding your oscillator to one filter that's being 'wobbled' and one that's not. I'm not a producer or anything but i think that's what's up.
Re: Wobbles in massive?
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:16 pm
by Recessive Trait
i keep telling you kids: unsynced wobbles are the way forward!
Re: Wobbles in massive?
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:08 pm
by thor_beatz
1.4 and up has sync PARAMETER AS A MIDI CC
Re: Wobbles in massive?
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:43 pm
by paravrais
What is this madness? You can't make wobble in massive!
Re: Wobbles in massive?
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:52 pm
by hasezwei
paravrais wrote:What is this madness? You can't make wobble in massive!
well i heard they released the beta for HAM-FX so that's only half true, you gotta have an invite for the betatest though... a friend knows a guy whose brother is in and he said it's the shit! stick it on top of any synth for the ugliest filth!
Re: Wobbles in massive?
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:45 am
by fds-
Recessive Trait wrote:i keep telling you kids: unsynced wobbles are the way forward!
Re: Wobbles in massive?
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:20 am
by stereotactic
Make sure your oscillators are all pointing at filter one (slide the bar on the right of the oscillators fully up to F1)
Make filter 1 a low pass filter. By moving the frequency cut off knob you should now hear the filter opening and closing, giving you teh wubz.
Route LFO 5 to filter cut off. Press the sync button on the LFO tab (or not, depending on what you want).
In your DAW, find the automation parameter MOD 5 DEN (this only relates to syched LFO's. Find the MOD 5 RATE or something like that for unsynced... sorry I am at work and don't have Massive in front of me). This will modulate the rate at which your wubz wub.
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Profit.
If you do not have this function you are running an old version of Massive, just open up NI Service Centre on your PC/Mac and download the latest update.
Re: Wobbles in massive?
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:27 am
by stereotactic
Oh, you also mentioned detuning to phatten... you may also want to try adding unison in the voicing tab.
Oh, and make sure the filter mix is set to F1 too (right hand side of the filter boxes), just to make sure everything is going through that one filter (shouldn't make a difference if all osc are routing to filter 1, buy why leave anything to chance eh?).
These are only ways to achieve what you want. After you have got the sound you are after, start messing with things to make things more interesting (for instance, running in parallel, you could run the oscillators through filter 1 first using a scream to dirty it up, then low pass filter 2... move the mix slider through to filter 2 and you can then modulate the cut off on that filter. Also, try modulating WT-Position, distortion, amp etc with LFO's)
Re: Wobbles in massive?
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:02 pm
by RmoniK
fds- wrote:Recessive Trait wrote:i keep telling you kids: unsynced wobbles are the way forward!
^ couldn't agree more
Re: Wobbles in massive?
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:28 pm
by Filthzilla
What DAW are you using?
In FL Studio you can edit the automation and draw in the LFO speed.
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:28 pm
by Filthzilla
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