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Feeling a change of DAW... possibly pro tools?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:59 pm
by JVMA
Hey guys,

I'm feeling a change of DAW coz I've been to my mates studio and noticed he uses Pro Tools (which looks and sounds a lot better than Fl studio which is what I use). I have also noticed this DAW is not much talked about on this forum and would like to hear your thoughts on this.

Also, a side question... If any of you guys know... Is NI Massive compatible with this DAW?

Cheers guys!

Re: Feeling a change of DAW... possibly pro tools?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:07 pm
by filthy_
massive is RTAS as well, which is pro tools capable. i suggest going back over and messing around with it. ive used pro tools before and it isnt the most fun to use. very very technical and far from user friendly.

Re: Feeling a change of DAW... possibly pro tools?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:16 pm
by bigfootspartan
JVMA wrote:Hey guys,

I'm feeling a change of DAW coz I've been to my mates studio and noticed he uses Pro Tools (which looks and sounds a lot better than Fl studio which is what I use). I have also noticed this DAW is not much talked about on this forum and would like to hear your thoughts on this.

Also, a side question... If any of you guys know... Is NI Massive compatible with this DAW?

Cheers guys!

Hmm to be honest i don't know about sounding better. I bet the audio engines are pretty similar in the end. Use whatever you feel comfortable with. In the end it really doesn't matter what DAW you are using, it just matters that you can understand how to use it and how to get it to do what you want in a timely fashion.

Re: Feeling a change of DAW... possibly pro tools?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:02 pm
by paravrais
Mm, it sounds to me like your friends just a better producer than you and that's why it sounds better. Buying pro tools won't instantly make your sound more polished. Also think very carefully before buying it as it isn't VST compatible which can put a spanner in the works with a lot of plug ins.

Re: Feeling a change of DAW... possibly pro tools?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:08 pm
by JVMA
paravrais wrote:Mm, it sounds to me like your friends just a better producer than you and that's why it sounds better. Buying pro tools won't instantly make your sound more polished. Also think very carefully before buying it as it isn't VST compatible which can put a spanner in the works with a lot of plug ins.
LOL! so 100% true. trust me, he is gna b massive (he produces commercial "rnb"). Rnb isnt related at all of course but the DAW sounded more "polished". But ur suggestion is probably the correct one. To add to that, even the presets sounded crystal clear (like beyond the best wav quality lol).

Anyway, thanks for the replies everyone. They were truly helpful.

Re: Feeling a change of DAW... possibly pro tools?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:11 pm
by 3za
What monitors he got?
:cornlol:

Re: Feeling a change of DAW... possibly pro tools?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:24 pm
by ogunslinger
I would not recommend pro tools, I think pro tools is great for recording and mixing but for actual music production and for creations sake I'd go with another DAW possibly logic or ableton!

I use pro tools for primarily audio production for movies (hehe learning how to do it at school!)


just my 2 cents, I'm no expert so don't take my advice like it's the law! lol

Re: Feeling a change of DAW... possibly pro tools?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:37 pm
by Wrigzilla
From my experience with Pro Tools I'd say it's only really worth it if you own a recording studio and record lots of bands. You can get VST to RTAS wrappers, I'm pretty sure anyway so the whole RTAS only thing can be overcome.

I liked mixing in Pro Tools (that may also partly be due to the mixing desk, hench monitors and nice outboard gear at the uni studios) but I hate arranging in Pro Tools. I also agree with the whole not user friendly thing, hell I found renoise more intuitive.

Re: Feeling a change of DAW... possibly pro tools?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:43 pm
by thor_beatz
JVMA wrote:(which looks and sounds a lot better than Fl studio which is what I use)
Cheers guys!
If you think your music will sound better in PT, your wrong.

A null test will have the same results. It's how you use FL or PT that makes the difference.

Re: Feeling a change of DAW... possibly pro tools?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:44 pm
by gravity
for: its great for audio/recording, its stable, fast and has amazing plugins

against: just about anything else you can think of

Re: Feeling a change of DAW... possibly pro tools?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:45 pm
by thor_beatz
ogunslinger wrote:I would not recommend pro tools, I think pro tools is great for recording and mixing but for actual music production and for creations sake I'd go with another DAW possibly logic or ableton!

I use pro tools for primarily audio production for movies (hehe learning how to do it at school!)


just my 2 cents, I'm no expert so don't take my advice like it's the law! lol
Exactly. If yo'll be likely to get OMF files and or have clients in linear media Pt is the industry standard. It;s like Nuendo and cubase, one is for music the other for post.

Many bands and some EM producers use PT though, it just a matter of workflow.

Re: Feeling a change of DAW... possibly pro tools?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:04 am
by makemerich
i use pro tools.
it is great.
main reason not to use pro tools
cannot automate plugins.
plain and simple.
im thinking of finding a different daw for this reason. :mrt:

Re: Feeling a change of DAW... possibly pro tools?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:08 am
by paravrais
3za wrote:What monitors he got?
:cornlol:
This.

Your new DP confused me a shitload by the way 3za O.o

Re: Feeling a change of DAW... possibly pro tools?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:23 am
by Wrigzilla
makemerich wrote:i use pro tools.
it is great.
main reason not to use pro tools
cannot automate plugins.
plain and simple.
im thinking of finding a different daw for this reason. :mrt:
Yes you can, although you have to click on a button in the plugin window and then pick which parameters show up in the automation drop down menu.

Re: Feeling a change of DAW... possibly pro tools?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:30 am
by makemerich
Wrigzilla wrote:
makemerich wrote:i use pro tools.
it is great.
main reason not to use pro tools
cannot automate plugins.
plain and simple.
im thinking of finding a different daw for this reason. :mrt:
Yes you can, although you have to click on a button in the plugin window and then pick which parameters show up in the automation drop down menu.
which button this would make my life a lot easier. :glasses:

Re: Feeling a change of DAW... possibly pro tools?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:52 am
by Ldizzy
sounds like someone needs to learn his current tools inside out before switching and loosing a shatload of hours...

Re: Feeling a change of DAW... possibly pro tools?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:04 am
by 3za
paravrais wrote:
3za wrote:What monitors he got?
:cornlol:
This.

Your new DP confused me a shitload by the way 3za O.o
DP :?

Re: Feeling a change of DAW... possibly pro tools?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:41 am
by makemerich
Ldizzy wrote:sounds like someone needs to learn his current tools inside out before switching and loosing a shatload of hours...
i know my tools just find i am digidesign certified , at the time i took the course there was no automation.

:middlefinger:

Re: Feeling a change of DAW... possibly pro tools?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:57 am
by Dreadfunk
I'd recommend 3 DAWs for producing EDM:

Live, Logic, and FL.

Pro Tools is a PITA.

Re: Feeling a change of DAW... possibly pro tools?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:19 am
by filthy_
if youre worried about not sounding good in FL, than im sorry to be blunt but youre severely ill informed. take a listen to: vaski, high rankin and basic a(whom is a member and makes some top quality tunes). they all use FL