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Sequencer for handicapped people

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:34 pm
by daft cunt
My girlfriend's father is working with handicapped people (some physically, some mentally) and wishes to do some sound recording with them. After that comes some basic sequencing.
What's the most user-friendly sequencer that exists in your opinion?

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:28 pm
by decklyn
That's a cool idea.

I can't really think of an easy sequencer tho!
Acid or Ableton prolly, but they're still not very simple.

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:44 pm
by misk
garageband is pretty simple and easy to use, so i'd reccomend that :) Thats a pretty cool idea btw. real groovy way to give back to the community.

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:52 pm
by misk
this article could prove valuable, but you've gotta buy it:

http://journals.cambridge.org/action/di ... &aid=50005

thats all i could find in google (course i didnt look super hard :P )

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:36 pm
by pangaea
Very cool idea 8)

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:53 pm
by ozeb
I bet there are some pretty interesting midi-controllers out there that could help the physically handicapped folks.

Applied sound therapy - excellent!!

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:07 pm
by docwra
I was gonna say something but i might upset a few people if i did. thought this thread was a joke.

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:30 pm
by daft cunt
ozeb wrote:I bet there are some pretty interesting midi-controllers out there that could help the physically handicapped folks.

Applied sound therapy - excellent!!
Sounds like a very good idea. Gotta tell him and see if they have any budget for such thing :!:

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:32 pm
by rekordah
garageband is a gud-un for this, maybe start off with ejay or something to ease into it and prevent frustration.

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:40 pm
by daft cunt
Misk wrote:this article could prove valuable, but you've gotta buy it:

http://journals.cambridge.org/action/di ... &aid=50005

thats all i could find in google (course i didnt look super hard :P )
Unfortunately the man doesn't speak english and that would too much work to translate.

Will give a try to garageband. Thx for that.

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:05 pm
by unempty
I think Tunafish could be of good use. It's simple, very "direct" and also very useful.

Also, for simple VST hosting without sequecing (but both MIDI and audio recording), check out Cantabile.

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:21 pm
by daft cunt
rekorder wrote:garageband is a gud-un for this, maybe start off with ejay or something to ease into it and prevent frustration.
Yep, ejay should do the trick!

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:26 pm
by grizzle
It depends on the type of handicap. If it's physical then it depends on it's acuteness. I mean in some cases a rollerball mouse will help. In other cases like paraplegics you might need a software controllable by a querty keyboard and then a pointer on their head to hit the querty keyboard. Ableton can be set up to work quite easily with key commands.

Then there are specialised controllers to make it easier... Head trackers, eye trackers, motion sensors, gestural controllers, speech recognition. You can build some controllers yourself look at the Doepfer and Arduino. Specialised controllers help a lot. Look at http://www.similar.cc/CMS/default.asp?id=241&langue= for more. Regular software will work in some but not all cases. You may have to develop the software yourself. You could do this in Max/Msp or even Synthedit.

For mental disablity depending on the type and severity... usually your better off with simple pieces of percussion. You can try to get them involved with a computer but again you'd need specialed controllers like XY controllers like pads and joysticks, buttons, switches. But generally things you can hit. A lot of mental disabities you come accross are with downsyndrome kids and they are strong so you need to have something they can bash away at without breaking. Also they can get very upset easily so it's not a good idea to have anything to finiky that they might break so maybe something like a fingerthing hooked up to samples and then a joystick for pitch and filter. You can get simplified sequencers that look very friendly and approachable like THIS ONE.

Anyways... good luck!

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:49 am
by daft cunt
Grizzle wrote:It depends on the type of handicap. If it's physical then it depends on it's acuteness. I mean in some cases a rollerball mouse will help. In other cases like paraplegics you might need a software controllable by a querty keyboard and then a pointer on their head to hit the querty keyboard. Ableton can be set up to work quite easily with key commands.

Then there are specialised controllers to make it easier... Head trackers, eye trackers, motion sensors, gestural controllers, speech recognition. You can build some controllers yourself look at the Doepfer and Arduino. Specialised controllers help a lot. Look at http://www.similar.cc/CMS/default.asp?id=241&langue= for more. Regular software will work in some but not all cases. You may have to develop the software yourself. You could do this in Max/Msp or even Synthedit.

For mental disablity depending on the type and severity... usually your better off with simple pieces of percussion. You can try to get them involved with a computer but again you'd need specialed controllers like XY controllers like pads and joysticks, buttons, switches. But generally things you can hit. A lot of mental disabities you come accross are with downsyndrome kids and they are strong so you need to have something they can bash away at without breaking. Also they can get very upset easily so it's not a good idea to have anything to finiky that they might break so maybe something like a fingerthing hooked up to samples and then a joystick for pitch and filter. You can get simplified sequencers that look very friendly and approachable like THIS ONE.

Anyways... good luck!
Thx for intensive & highly relevant answer