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A different resampling question

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:17 pm
by Gewze
Obviously resampling can have some amazing results but ive never been able to reproduce anything close to professional sounding or listenable.

If i posted like a sample of a synth im working on. (the original, with no processing) would some one care to have a fuck around with it and give me like a run through of the process and the effects chain they took?

Re: A different resampling question

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:50 pm
by nowaysj
That is a resounding no! haha. Keep going, find your way. Maybe resampling doesn't agree with you? It is one technique to make sounds and music. One of many.

My guess is that you are getting ahead of yourself. Slow down, keep it simple, really think about what you like about music, and focus on improving your skills in those areas.

As it stands, I think you may not really know what you like about music, yet. Not trying to disrespect.

Re: A different resampling question

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:49 pm
by alphacat
Yeah... seeing as nobody's jumping up at your offer to mangle a sound and document how they did it (it's the documentation part that nobody wants to bother with I reckon) your next best option, as always, is teh interwebz.

It's all out there, but it's up to you to put it all together. :Q:

Re: A different resampling question

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:03 pm
by Gewze
nowaysj wrote:That is a resounding no! haha. Keep going, find your way. Maybe resampling doesn't agree with you? It is one technique to make sounds and music. One of many.

My guess is that you are getting ahead of yourself. Slow down, keep it simple, really think about what you like about music, and focus on improving your skills in those areas.

As it stands, I think you may not really know what you like about music, yet. Not trying to disrespect.
im not sure what you mean ''you may not really know what you like about music'' but i was just asking this question so i could expand on my production techniques, you can never learn enough you know.
you see people posting their resampled synth's but not really the original, saying that i remember seeing someone on here posting up their resampling of an 808 kick and turned it in to some gargling beast thing.

Re: A different resampling question

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:24 pm
by Sinisterbeats
I think you should just read up on, and try out different types of fx. Resampling is not some sort of holey grail to make good sounds. IMO its more for simply saving cpu if you have a long fx chain. It also means your committed to the sound and hopefully will increase your workflow because your not going back and changing things all the time.

Re: A different resampling question

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:36 pm
by hasezwei
Sinisterbeats wrote:I think you should just read up on, and try out different types of fx. Resampling is not some sort of holey grail to make good sounds. IMO its more for simply saving cpu if you have a long fx chain. It also means your committed to the sound and hopefully will increase your workflow because your not going back and changing things all the time.
i understand his question though. took me long enough to figure out wtf to actually do once i loaded my reese into the sampler.
actually i just decided i'll do whatever the fuck i want, who cares if it's right or wrong :lol:

Re: A different resampling question

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:43 pm
by Sinisterbeats
hasezwei wrote:
Sinisterbeats wrote:I think you should just read up on, and try out different types of fx. Resampling is not some sort of holey grail to make good sounds. IMO its more for simply saving cpu if you have a long fx chain. It also means your committed to the sound and hopefully will increase your workflow because your not going back and changing things all the time.
i understand his question though. took me long enough to figure out wtf to actually do once i loaded my reese into the sampler.
actually i just decided i'll do whatever the fuck i want, who cares if it's right or wrong :lol:
exactly, which makes it a bit of a void question because there is no right or wrong. Asking for someone else to put an effects chain on a sound wont teach him anything. Doing it himself and learning the effects will be much more beneficial.

Re: A different resampling question

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:50 pm
by lyons238
nowaysj wrote:That is a resounding no! haha. Keep going, find your way. Maybe resampling doesn't agree with you? It is one technique to make sounds and music. One of many.

My guess is that you are getting ahead of yourself. Slow down, keep it simple, really think about what you like about music, and focus on improving your skills in those areas.

As it stands, I think you may not really know what you like about music, yet. Not trying to disrespect.
i agree with this statement. i am new to producing and sometimes i read a lot on the internet and try things that are probably to advanced for me and they end up sounding shitty. resampling is one of these things. i just cant figure out yet how to mangle a sound into a good bassline without using normal notes and such. i have found that keeping it simple and practicing that does sound a lot better. it might not sound as crazyyy as you want it to but it takes time. im in the same boat man.

edit: your song sounds pretty damn good and simple as it is now. so maybe it is time for you to start resampling.

Re: A different resampling question

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:59 pm
by hasezwei
Sinisterbeats wrote:
hasezwei wrote:
Sinisterbeats wrote:I think you should just read up on, and try out different types of fx. Resampling is not some sort of holey grail to make good sounds. IMO its more for simply saving cpu if you have a long fx chain. It also means your committed to the sound and hopefully will increase your workflow because your not going back and changing things all the time.
i understand his question though. took me long enough to figure out wtf to actually do once i loaded my reese into the sampler.
actually i just decided i'll do whatever the fuck i want, who cares if it's right or wrong :lol:
exactly, which makes it a bit of a void question because there is no right or wrong. Asking for someone else to put an effects chain on a sound wont teach him anything. Doing it himself and learning the effects will be much more beneficial.
a step by step with sound examples would still help tho. i mean i could just say, for example

make a reese in your synth, send it to 3 channels to split the frequencies, compress the lowend and sweep with notchfilters through the other 2 frequency bands at different speeds until it sounds good, then export that and load it into your sampler AND THEN let it glide between 2 notes via portamento/glide.

but i doubt it'll help :corntard:

Re: A different resampling question

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:18 pm
by Sinisterbeats
a step by step guide could help for a specific sound, for example a reese. But when its such a broad question asking about resampling it seems to me its more the fx chain process and how the effects sound that are being asked about, rather than the uses of it.

infact...
Gewze wrote: give me like a run through of the process and the effects chain they took?
this all depends on the sound your trying to achieve and resampling may not even be needed.

Re: A different resampling question

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:18 pm
by Sinisterbeats
a step by step guide could help for a specific sound, for example a reese. But when its such a broad question asking about resampling it seems to me its more the fx chain process and how the effects sound that are being asked about, rather than the uses of it.

infact...
Gewze wrote: give me like a run through of the process and the effects chain they took?
this all depends on the sound your trying to achieve and resampling may not even be needed.

Re: A different resampling question

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:38 pm
by AJGR
take your sample pitch, play it 3, 4 or however many octaves higher.
bounce and load that sample into your sampler.
play the sample 3, 4 or however many octaves it was but lower.

this will give you the resample crunch.

Re: A different resampling question

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:46 pm
by nowaysj
OP, why don't you just keep doing crazy shit, and when you're happy with something, you tell us how you made it. :)

Re: A different resampling question

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:54 pm
by Gewze
cheers for the replies innit, and ultimately i just wanted to see what people came up with because the results i get are usually over saturated with effects to the point it just sounds like the original just worse. but yeah i will experiment and show you in time