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Circle (?) bass

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:04 pm
by societyloser1
Hay kids,

I was wondering how these artists made a bass like this


around 0:50


around 0:51

& this old skool 'brostep' track (still diggin' it, nostalgia :4: )

around 0:45

Resampling & pitch automation on it? Or do you guys have better ways to achieve this bass sound?

Re: Circle (?) bass

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:42 pm
by 2mb1o
HAM Vst ?

Re: Circle (?) bass

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:47 pm
by skimpi
its just going up in pitch?

Re: Circle (?) bass

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:08 pm
by charliefoy
Bass?

Re: Circle (?) bass

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:28 pm
by societyloser1
skimpi wrote:its just going up in pitch?
Yeah, I know... But i'm searching for the sweeping movement in the bass
So I will repeat my last sentence...

"Resampling & pitch automation on it? Or do you guys have better ways to achieve this bass sound?"

Re: Circle (?) bass

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:38 pm
by monte-m
The Widdler himself goes into pretty good detail in his first reply in this thread on how to make the bass from Froggy Style: http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=152180

Re: Circle (?) bass

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:33 pm
by skimpi
societyloser1 wrote:
skimpi wrote:its just going up in pitch?
Yeah, I know... But i'm searching for the sweeping movement in the bass
So I will repeat my last sentence...

"Resampling & pitch automation on it? Or do you guys have better ways to achieve this bass sound?"
2 of those tunes just sound like a sine wave that goes up in pitch, then down, or the other way round, you can just automate the pitch bend on a synth, or use an lfo to control the pitch of the oscillator, the second tune sounds totally different though.

Re: Circle (?) bass

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:02 am
by jrisreal
sine wave bass...portamento to slide the bass from note to note instead of just jumping. I do this alot in hiphop (but not really with bass)

EDIT: I have a question for you. Why did you call this thread "Circle (?) Bass" what does this have to do with circles? lol

Re: Circle (?) bass

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:03 am
by Filthzilla
You addressed me as a kid. :'( I no longer want to help...

But I will, get yourself NI Massive if you wanna get that Swagga sound. Use a combination of squares, saws, scrapyard waveforms, etc..
Then automate that Daft filter. ;)

Should get you atleast close.

Try the Sine Shaper or some other distortion unit on there. I recommend turning the compression off on Camel Crusher and turning up the tube slightly. Always fattens basses up nicely. :)

Re: Circle (?) bass

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:07 am
by hakka
Duplicate any wobble and automate. Export as audio, import as audio file, add effects and automate some more :W:

Re: Circle (?) bass

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:12 pm
by legend4ry
I was actually U-streaming with widdler when he made the Froggystyle bass...

He just messed about the Malstrom's modulation settings till it sounded like that.. Try routing normal wobble to Mod B, then also messing with Mod A - you'll get bass what sounds like that eventually..

Re: Circle (?) bass

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:33 pm
by jrisreal
Filthzilla wrote:You addressed me as a kid. :'( I no longer want to help...

But I will, get yourself NI Massive if you wanna get that Swagga sound. Use a combination of squares, saws, scrapyard waveforms, etc..
Then automate that Daft filter. ;)

Should get you atleast close.

Try the Sine Shaper or some other distortion unit on there. I recommend turning the compression off on Camel Crusher and turning up the tube slightly. Always fattens basses up nicely. :)
I think the op was asking how to make the sub bass slide, not how to make a datsicion swagga bass

Re: Circle (?) bass

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:58 pm
by societyloser1
Yes, I was searching for the sliding sub...

Circle Bass, I don't know... A year ago my friend and I were listening to frogyy style, and he said something like... Damn, if I must visualize that bass, I would draw it like a cirlce!

Thanks for the info, guys! I think I'm gonna mess around with pitch or glide to make that kind of sound!
:4:

Re: Circle (?) bass

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:01 pm
by societyloser1
legend4ry wrote:I was actually U-streaming with widdler when he made the Froggystyle bass...

He just messed about the Malstrom's modulation settings till it sounded like that.. Try routing normal wobble to Mod B, then also messing with Mod A - you'll get bass what sounds like that eventually..
I don't use reason... but I think Operator can also come close to the sound! Maybe with some Fm synthesis I could make it even better? Who knows... Let's find out! :mrgreen:

Re: Circle (?) bass

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:52 pm
by Ldizzy
A certain producer with a certain name in a certain q&a actually broke down a certain froggy basse patch... They even say he namedropped the name of the basic wavetable he used :O...

some say people started downloading reason after they heard about the origins of the mythical patch..

i dont believe it tho... noone is kind enough to give insight on their techniques :P

Re: Circle (?) bass

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:01 am
by jrisreal
societyloser1 wrote:
legend4ry wrote:I was actually U-streaming with widdler when he made the Froggystyle bass...

He just messed about the Malstrom's modulation settings till it sounded like that.. Try routing normal wobble to Mod B, then also messing with Mod A - you'll get bass what sounds like that eventually..
I don't use reason... but I think Operator can also come close to the sound! Maybe with some Fm synthesis I could make it even better? Who knows... Let's find out! :mrgreen:
Do you use fl studio? I use fl studio and its a really simple thing to do, if you want, I'll give you step by step instructions

Re: Circle (?) bass

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:24 am
by societyloser1
jrisreal wrote:
societyloser1 wrote:
legend4ry wrote:I was actually U-streaming with widdler when he made the Froggystyle bass...

He just messed about the Malstrom's modulation settings till it sounded like that.. Try routing normal wobble to Mod B, then also messing with Mod A - you'll get bass what sounds like that eventually..
I don't use reason... but I think Operator can also come close to the sound! Maybe with some Fm synthesis I could make it even better? Who knows... Let's find out! :mrgreen:
Do you use fl studio? I use fl studio and its a really simple thing to do, if you want, I'll give you step by step instructions
Thanks man, but no... I don't use Fl studio (ableton ftw :D), but I became close to the sound I was looking for!
Thanks anyway, really appreciating the help!

Re: Circle (?) bass

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:23 am
by xx773xx
Nothing more than playing around with a pitch envelope on a sine wave.