Cutting dubs
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:44 pm
I've just bought a few wav's off beatport that havn't been released on wax, would it be "acceptable" to cut a few dubs? Or could someone just outline the general "rules" to this subject?
Why? That's what they're made for!rob sparx wrote:BTW if u cut a dubplate DONT rewind it!
A slow rewind is ok but full power spinbacks which are fine on normal vinyl aint too clever on dubplates£10 Bag wrote:Why? That's what they're made for!rob sparx wrote:BTW if u cut a dubplate DONT rewind it!
No. You can get vinyl dubplates, one off things. When I saw it, I don't understand why anyone would buy an acetate when they know it'll become crap!apmje wrote:Isn't it something to do with only being able to get vinyl in larger quantities but with acetate they are one off?
because there is a difference in the sound between the acetate and the vinyl dubplate. The acetate has in my opinion a much fuller sound more associated with a finished record. The vinyl dub has a slight boxed in feel, but is much punchier on a system. but ech to their own, thats just my opinion.dj seizure wrote:No. You can get vinyl dubplates, one off things. When I saw it, I don't understand why anyone would buy an acetate when they know it'll become crap!apmje wrote:Isn't it something to do with only being able to get vinyl in larger quantities but with acetate they are one off?
Cheers Rob! I just havn't ever cut before so I thought it was worth a little inquest before I startedrob sparx wrote:When a tune is mastered the vinyl master and digital master are done seperately vinyl master will be peaking around the 0db mark (maybe get a few db more on the transfer to vinyl) digi masters could be boosted say +6db from that so much louder. If you were to press from a digi master instead of a vinyl master would have to reduce overall volume so that record can be cut the result of which is less dynamic range on the dubplate/laquer. Also more importantly, for vinyl certain frequencies have to be cut out etc or eq'd/processed differently to digi and is probably better to do these to a quiet (-6db peak or less) high quality (32bit) recording rather than an already boosted/processed digi recording. I think thats the case anyway not an expert or anything
That said a vinyl cut from such a digi recording could still sound ok and plenty of records released have the same problem - they have basically been digi mastered (as producer leaves volume well in the red/limited/processed) b4 they are actually mastered properly - engineer has no headroom to work with at that point so can't do much for the sound other than cut to laquer. I know from experience of doing things the right and the wrong way that (provided your engineer is worth their salt) cutting from a quiet high quality premaster makes a warmer/smoother and louder master with less chance of distortion occusing - if you are cutting your own or friends tunes best to use this kind of premaster however if u dont have this option then digi thats already been premastered can still sound ok plenty of djs have cut plenty of records this way.
BTW if u cut a dubplate DONT rewind it!
Record it with a top quality needle onto a sadie for the 1st play (haven't actually done this yet but will be doing it very soon) to capture that sound at its bestdj seizure wrote:No. You can get vinyl dubplates, one off things. When I saw it, I don't understand why anyone would buy an acetate when they know it'll become crap!apmje wrote:Isn't it something to do with only being able to get vinyl in larger quantities but with acetate they are one off?