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Predelay on Reverb = Win

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:28 pm
by lowpass
Get that punch from the snare come through and then the epic 'verb after it without clouding up the transient... Beautiful

It's been a while since I posted so thought I'd just whack that up before asking some questions!

Re: Predelay on Reverb = Win

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:31 pm
by serox
lowpass wrote:Get that punch from the snare come through and then the epic 'verb after it without clouding up the transient... Beautiful

It's been a while since I posted so thought I'd just whack that up before asking some questions!
I layer dry and wet to avoid this issue!


btw, punch in a snare? I thought kicks punch...

Re: Predelay on Reverb = Win

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:43 pm
by hasezwei
serox wrote:
lowpass wrote:Get that punch from the snare come through and then the epic 'verb after it without clouding up the transient... Beautiful

It's been a while since I posted so thought I'd just whack that up before asking some questions!
I layer dry and wet to avoid this issue!


btw, punch in a snare? I thought kicks punch...
200Hz MATE!!!!111 :6:

but yeah predelay is a nice thingthat i tend to forget more often than not. thanks for the reminder!

Re: Predelay on Reverb = Win

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:50 pm
by serox
hasezwei wrote:
serox wrote:
lowpass wrote:Get that punch from the snare come through and then the epic 'verb after it without clouding up the transient... Beautiful

It's been a while since I posted so thought I'd just whack that up before asking some questions!
I layer dry and wet to avoid this issue!


btw, punch in a snare? I thought kicks punch...
200Hz MATE!!!!111 :6:

but yeah predelay is a nice thingthat i tend to forget more often than not. thanks for the reminder!
Depends on the snare u go for but yours prob sound like kicks hehe :D

I like short snappy snares that sit highhhhhh

Re: Predelay on Reverb = Win

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:57 pm
by hasezwei
serox wrote:
hasezwei wrote:
serox wrote:
lowpass wrote:Get that punch from the snare come through and then the epic 'verb after it without clouding up the transient... Beautiful

It's been a while since I posted so thought I'd just whack that up before asking some questions!
I layer dry and wet to avoid this issue!


btw, punch in a snare? I thought kicks punch...
200Hz MATE!!!!111 :6:

but yeah predelay is a nice thingthat i tend to forget more often than not. thanks for the reminder!
Depends on the snare u go for but yours prob sound like kicks hehe :D

I like short snappy snares that sit highhhhhh
it's some meme from DOA, few years ago everyone wanted to have snares like pendulum. i'm more into rimshot-like snappy ones as well (though i definetly lack samples in that regard, but pitching up acoustic snares and layering with claps works for the moment)

Re: Predelay on Reverb = Win

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:17 pm
by serox
hasezwei wrote:

it's some meme from DOA, few years ago everyone wanted to have snares like pendulum. i'm more into rimshot-like snappy ones as well (though i definetly lack samples in that regard, but pitching up acoustic snares and layering with claps works for the moment)
Some meme?

Horrible snares have plagued Dubstep in recent years imo.

Re: Predelay on Reverb = Win

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:29 am
by Karoshi
i cant stand all these white noise snares me

gonna try that predelay on a snare, sounds interesting

Re: Predelay on Reverb = Win

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:30 am
by lowpass
Yeah with the long reverbs I usually have to turn em right down to avoid drowning out the impact of the drum (using the 'verb as a send') but with this I seem to be able to get a lot more reverb out of it and retain the punch

Re: Predelay on Reverb = Win

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:26 am
by Ldizzy
so just to set the record straight, do u dial in highass predelay, or little amount...

i really suck at verbs.. no sheit... im a noob

(ill experiment with it anyways but just wanted to know what it is that u actually meant :S)

Re: Predelay on Reverb = Win

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:43 am
by Shum
Pre delay is one of your most effective tools for positioning sounds in a mix. In the abstract ambient space that a reverb "creates" small-ish (30-60ms roughly) values give the perception of depth, larger values push your sound closer to the front generally speaking. However with small pre delay values and cheap reverbs you may have phasing issues as early reflections interact with your source.

Experimentation is good. :)