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Deadmau5 has confused me

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:47 pm
by zawmbee
I recently downloaded a project file from Deadmau5's Facebook page; where he attempted to make some brostep. The original file is long gone and buried, so here is my upload of it: http://www.mediafire.com/?q25hrpubzpb3pqr (Virus free. Ableton project file only.)

My question is how was he able to get his bassline and wobbles as a .wav file? Was there a secondary DAW he used which he exported it as a .wav file; is that possible? I'd love some more information on this if you guys have the time.

Re: Deadmau5 has confused me

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:53 pm
by JBE
If he used ableton he probably just recorded it from a soft synth into an audio channel. Or just bounced them and loaded them back in. I know he used to use FL but not sure if he still uses it if he's on to ableton now.

Re: Deadmau5 has confused me

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:18 pm
by DJ Crackle
Are you referring to... like a bass stem track?
Just bounce it down, re-import.

Re: Deadmau5 has confused me

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:40 pm
by zawmbee
DJ Crackle wrote:Are you referring to... like a bass stem track?
Just bounce it down, re-import.
Bounce? I don't understand that term D:
Is that when you convert an MIDI into an Audio track?

Re: Deadmau5 has confused me

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:41 pm
by RmoniK
bounce-in-place?
Just export a little part of your channel too WAV and import it again :)

Re: Deadmau5 has confused me

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:45 pm
by Sinisterbeats
zawmbee wrote:
DJ Crackle wrote:Are you referring to... like a bass stem track?
Just bounce it down, re-import.
Bounce? I don't understand that term D:
Is that when you convert an MIDI into an Audio track?
its when you record the output of a channel. MIDI contains no audio, its just tells a synth what to do.

Re: Deadmau5 has confused me

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:46 pm
by zawmbee
RmoniK wrote:bounce-in-place?
Just export a little part of your channel too WAV and import it again :)
Sinisterbeats wrote:
zawmbee wrote:
DJ Crackle wrote:Are you referring to... like a bass stem track?
Just bounce it down, re-import.
Bounce? I don't understand that term D:
Is that when you convert an MIDI into an Audio track?
its when you record the output of a channel. MIDI contains no audio, its just tells a synth what to do.
OH! Fantastic, haha. Learn something new each day. May I ask what the benefit of this is? Or does it just look tidier.

Re: Deadmau5 has confused me

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:53 pm
by __________
Saves CPU and lets you see the waveform. That's about it really.

Re: Deadmau5 has confused me

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:55 pm
by societyloser1
In ableton select the track you want to bounce down... right click -> freeze track (doesn't work with sidechain compressors and stuff) -> right click -> flatten, it's that easy!

Re: Deadmau5 has confused me

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:56 pm
by Sinisterbeats
£10 Bag wrote:Saves CPU and lets you see the waveform. That's about it really.
some might say it can help with workflow as it makes to commit to a sound more and stops you going back and endlessly tweaking the synth.

Re: Deadmau5 has confused me

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:56 pm
by zawmbee
Oh wow, that could come in very handy. Thanks a lot guys.

Re: Deadmau5 has confused me

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:58 pm
by erratech
plus he didnt have to give away his patch :P

Re: Deadmau5 has confused me

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:59 pm
by DJ Crackle
You can chop it up and re-trigger as you like. Stretch sounds, move them over a tiny bit. The benefit is that you just get to work with a wave form :)
Plus CPU power if that's an issue.

Also, good call, didn't even think about not giving out the patch.

Re: Deadmau5 has confused me

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:04 pm
by Subject 1
In ableton the way you do it is Make Midi and idk make it atleast 8 bars then right click on it Freeze in and flatten it and it will make your MIDI to audio or you can select an audio track and set it to resample and record

Re: Deadmau5 has confused me

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:06 pm
by DJ Crackle
Man I'm so jealous of fucking Bounce In Place or 'freeze and flatten' (never heard of that one). I wish we had that in Cubase. Just freeze afaik. -_-

Re: Deadmau5 has confused me

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:08 pm
by kingGhost
uh.. huh? i only use reason, but in there you have different tracks for every sound on the song, so you can just mute everything else and export the bass, drum, synth, etc track to a wav. nothing tricky about it.

Re: Deadmau5 has confused me

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:30 pm
by the dub lemon
DJ Crackle wrote:Man I'm so jealous of fucking Bounce In Place or 'freeze and flatten' (never heard of that one). I wish we had that in Cubase. Just freeze afaik. -_-
Solo the track you want to bounce, and set a loop round the select you want to bounce (select it and hit P) then choose File->Export->Audio Mixdown and check the box to say to import it into the project as a new audio track. Sound a bit long winded? Well go in to key commands and set up a key command to export audio mixdown, I do it all the time and it's just a few key clicks away ;-)

Re: Deadmau5 has confused me

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:59 pm
by DJ Crackle
the dub lemon wrote:Solo the track you want to bounce, and set a loop round the select you want to bounce (select it and hit P) then choose File->Export->Audio Mixdown and check the box to say to import it into the project as a new audio track. Sound a bit long winded? Well go in to key commands and set up a key command to export audio mixdown, I do it all the time and it's just a few key clicks away ;-)
HOLY SHIT I had no idea that was an option. Thank you! I need to explore my DAW more.

Re: Deadmau5 has confused me

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:39 am
by jaws
DJ Crackle wrote:Man I'm so jealous of fucking Bounce In Place or 'freeze and flatten' (never heard of that one). I wish we had that in Cubase. Just freeze afaik. -_-
+1 for pro tools, would save me a lot of headaches

Re: Deadmau5 has confused me

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:32 am
by anonnona
Joel (the mau5 man) uses Cubase.
It is always open.
AbletonLive is ReWired to it. Along with all those outboard synths.
Sections of music are recorded and rendered in Cubase,
then put into AbletonLive for mashing, and all the stuff Live is good at.

Cubase renders whatever you are hearing (like if you Solo or mute stuff),
and puts it right into the song on a new audio track, with one click.
And there it is.
When you have your music on tracks right in front of you and you want to render each thing as audio,
AbletonLive is a BITCH.
"here's how you bounce audio using Ableton". yeah, I know how to do it in Live.
Rendering audio or midi parts or single channels with ableton is a tedious bitch.
With Cubase, whatever you're hearing at any moment you just click a button and it is placed onto an audio track, that's it.

I own Cubase, Logic, AbletonLive, Reason, Reaktor, FL studio.
In studios, I have worked with ProTools, Digital Performer, Repear.
And I have tested the hell out of ALL of them.
Cubase is the mother ship here. It is ALWAYS opened FIRST and it is the "shell" DAW in the studio for a million reasons,
many of which cannot be explained.
I have done the "write to support at Logic, or ableton, etc, and ask them to put that into their DAW".
I have done that for YEARS. Sometimes they do put their own styled version of [whatever it is] into their app.

3 things:
1- Right now Cubase's transport is STOPPED, and I played something on my keyboard that was awesome and I wish I recorded it.
Cubase did record it even though the transport was stopped. So I press a button in Cubase, and what I played is put onto a midi track
as though I was recording.

2- Cubase has a built-in audio editor that without a doubt surpasses ANY standalone audio editor anywhere. trust me.
it has a built-in melodyne, pitch correction, EVERYTHINGGGG...

3- EVERYTHING that ANY DAW does right now, I PROMISE YOU, Cubase came out with it a year ago.

Live was designed because studio DAW's weren't good on stage.
So Ableton Live was invented. And all the fans saw deadmau5 and skrillex PERFORMING on stage with it
and saw videos where they're using AbletonLive on stage, and saw the unreal advertising ableton did to get their foot into
the market.
That's all good. but it aint the momma in a studio.