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Where's all the garage heads at?
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:16 am
by shonky
Came to this scene via Horsepower, Kode 9, Oris Jay and El-B back in 2001 and was wondering what other producers are still doing dubs along those lines. Seems like I'm buying more garage than anything else at the moment (cheers to Chemical, Juno, HTFR and e-bay) but was wondering who else is still pursuing that style.
Burial, TRG, Zomby's "Memories", Hell Science Department and..ahem..me but can't really think of anyone else off the top of my head. Hearing Benny Ill at Corsica the other month made me realise exactly what (to my mind) is missing from dubstep at the moment.
Not hating on halfstep or anything but that's the sound that keeps catching my ear. Know there's quite a few dj's here that still play garage in their sets - name us some artists, I wanna hear some more.
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:27 am
by djbmc
Some more 2-step style beats would be nice, on a slightly unrelated tip u heard that new sorry pt.2? Pure 2 step cheese!!
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:31 am
by furiouz
I'm always on the hunt for old stuff. Both vintage dubstep & oldskool ukg like Confetti, Emitta, Quench etc..
I'm really feeling your stuff Shonky, "Drunken master" is heavyweight! TRGs productions are bad aswell, some Burial stuff. Deffo need more
El-B releases like Among the stars on Qualifide.
Bring back the "swing"
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:35 am
by r33lc4sh
Furiouz wrote:
Bring back the "swing"
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:40 am
by shonky
Haven't seen any Confetti stuff going for less than £30 on e-bay lately - someone's been tipped off. Managed to pick up Set you Free by Anthill Mob on a Classic Garage bootleg
Must be demand to reissue some of this stuff I would have thought - be cool to see some of these tunes on an official triple pack rather than dodgy bootlegs
Going back to the roots of the dark garage sound I managed to pick up a few Steve Gurley tunes, his riddims are proper.
Just like a bit more drums with my bass, and I don't go to clubs to meditate, bring on the hedonizm
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:43 am
by bunzer0
Conduit by parson is full of Swing !
Minimal 26 by Janner is pure sunny vibez garagey tune
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:49 am
by shonky
Yeah, that Minimal 26 is cool as fuck - good find
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:51 am
by ramadanman
some of pangaea's new stuff! watch out!
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:58 am
by bunzer0
ramadanman wrote:some of pangaea's new stuff! watch out!
can't wait ! Pangaea bits are amazing
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:03 am
by LEQ
Furiouz wrote:
I'm really feeling your stuff Shonky, "Drunken master" is heavyweight!
Where can I hear this Shonky? Had a search but didn't see it.
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:08 am
by shonky
Last one in the player on myspace or you can check it on virb.
Gotta be said, I did actually start this thread to find other garage tunes - I'm pretty familiar with my own stuff to be honest
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:11 am
by elgato
Shonky wrote:Must be demand to reissue some of this stuff I would have thought - be cool to see some of these tunes on an official triple pack rather than dodgy bootlegs
the Confetti website seems to indicate that they might be re-opening for business... also you can buy mp3s from a sister site. ppl know the crack about Confetti on ebay!
old speed garage/4x4 is very very bassy, its easy to forget. obviously its not the blanket that most dubstep is, but i dont think that thats a bad thing
what kind of garage are you after Shonky? specifically new stuff?
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:14 am
by elgato
this Janner tune is so very very sick, feeling it so much! ruff but so uplifting
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:18 am
by shonky
@Elgato
Well, heard loads of the modern organ driven 4/4 stuff and wasn't really feeling that, looking more for the 2 step flavas. I was really asking to see what producers and labels here were still putting that sort of thing out
Get the feeling MJ's still putting bits and pieces out on prolific, just seems a shame that sounds fallen out of favour. Get a bit annoyed when people keep referring to it as old school as I think there's still plenty of ways of carving up a bar and having some more interesting, danceable riddims
Re: Where's all the garage heads at?
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:24 am
by rekordah
Shonky wrote:Came to this scene via Horsepower, Kode 9, Oris Jay and El-B back in 2001 and was wondering what other producers are still doing dubs along those lines. Seems like I'm buying more garage than anything else at the moment (cheers to Chemical, Juno, HTFR and e-bay) but was wondering who else is still pursuing that style.
Burial, TRG, Zomby's "Memories", Hell Science Department and..ahem..me but can't really think of anyone else off the top of my head. Hearing Benny Ill at Corsica the other month made me realise exactly what (to my mind) is missing from dubstep at the moment.
Not hating on halfstep or anything but that's the sound that keeps catching my ear. Know there's quite a few dj's here that still play garage in their sets - name us some artists, I wanna hear some more.
Atki2 has some very nice 2-steppy/garage tunes....try and check out his 'Selector Mix' the last third of it are all 2-steppy beats.
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:32 am
by healer
yes all about the dark garage, 2step tunes!
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:33 am
by metalboxproducts
yes
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:40 am
by elgato
most new garage i hear is pretty weak to be fair, even the stuff from the masters... Karl Brown, MJ Cole etc, it just seems to have lost something. i like some of the grimy 4x4 stuff, D'explicit is doing some sick stuff here and there
what i think is jokes is that almost anything with an uplifting, soulful, vocal-driven vibe is 'old-school'! like positivity is a thing of the past!
but Shonky, to be fair, your tunes are well up there. have you thought about putting some out? the more visible these elements of the sound are in shops and clubs, the more likely others are to have a go...
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:51 am
by shonky
May have something out in August if things go to plan.
Know what you mean about some of the modern garage - did pick up that MJ Cole and Wideboys tune "Nothing But Trouble" and thought that was pretty good
http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF178239-01-02-01.mp3
Love the vocal on that tune.
And of course there's nothing old school AT ALL WHATSOVER about sampling 70's reggae tunes is there
I think the people get the idea that anything fun or uplifiting is immediately cheesy, vacuous shite and anything dark and forboding is somehow more meaningful - reminds me of pretty much every serious muso argument bollocks since the 80's (and probably earlier).
More saucy vibes inna di dance I think
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:54 am
by elgato
yeh that tunes not bad. for me though its still not even close to the quality of a lot of classic 2step
you should definately get something out on vinyl