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The secrets of synthesis

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:10 pm
by Topknocka
I just found this and thought some of you might find it useful. It's a couple of years worth of SoundOnSound articles explaining low level synthesis, all linked on one page. I've been programming synths for 10 years or more and this really opened my eyes. Tbh, some of it is a complete headfuck, but interesting nonetheless.

Apologies if it's been posted before but I did a search for the URL and didn't find it. Oh, and this is the first topic I've started so go easy :a:

http://www.adp-gmbh.ch/csound/synth_secret.html

Re: The secrets of synthesis

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:51 pm
by Astrobear
This actually goes pretty in depth into the physics needed to understand synthesis! This looks like a very good read for everyone using a synthesizer.

Re: The secrets of synthesis

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:17 am
by jrisreal
bookmarked :D

Re: The secrets of synthesis

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:34 am
by amphibian
I go by sound rather than any mathematical equation...

1. Turn knob
2. Sound good?
3. No -> Go to 1.
4. Yes -> Go to 5
5. Turn another knob

Re: The secrets of synthesis

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:53 am
by Topknocka
amphibian wrote:I go by sound rather than any mathematical equation...

1. Turn knob
2. Sound good?
3. No -> Go to 1.
4. Yes -> Go to 5
5. Turn another knob
Nothing wrong with that. I'm sure there's loads of good patches that have been created by accident but......if you want to program a kick and you've got Osc1 set to saw pitched an octave above zero, no matter which of the other 400 or so parameters you change, it's unlikely to sound much like a traditional kick.

Re: The secrets of synthesis

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:56 am
by amphibian
Topknocka wrote:
amphibian wrote:I go by sound rather than any mathematical equation...

1. Turn knob
2. Sound good?
3. No -> Go to 1.
4. Yes -> Go to 5
5. Turn another knob
Nothing wrong with that. I'm sure there's loads of good patches that have been created by accident but......if you want to program a kick and you've got Osc1 set to saw pitched an octave above zero, no matter which of the other 400 or so parameters you change, it's unlikely to sound much like a traditional kick.
Oh absolutely. I mean I definitely read.etc. in fact first 6 months of production saw me reading something for several hours/day. Now I have an understand of how a sound is made, but I usually get what I want through experimenting, not actually knowing how to get the end result, just general guidelines in my head.

Re: The secrets of synthesis

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:01 am
by Topknocka
amphibian wrote:
Topknocka wrote:
amphibian wrote:I go by sound rather than any mathematical equation...

1. Turn knob
2. Sound good?
3. No -> Go to 1.
4. Yes -> Go to 5
5. Turn another knob
Nothing wrong with that. I'm sure there's loads of good patches that have been created by accident but......if you want to program a kick and you've got Osc1 set to saw pitched an octave above zero, no matter which of the other 400 or so parameters you change, it's unlikely to sound much like a traditional kick.
Oh absolutely. I mean I definitely read.etc. in fact first 6 months of production saw me reading something for several hours/day. Now I have an understand of how a sound is made, but I usually get what I want through experimenting, not actually knowing how to get the end result, just general guidelines in my head.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for fiddling with knobs (does that sound gay? :roll: ), I just like to know some of the science behind the sound if you know what I mean?
The feedback on your sig tunes speaks volumes. You obviously know your art.

Re: The secrets of synthesis

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:46 am
by Astrobear
amphibian wrote:I go by sound rather than any mathematical equation...

1. Turn knob
2. Sound good?
3. No -> Go to 1.
4. Yes -> Go to 5
5. Turn another knob
The problem with this is certain sounds that you have in your head require a certain number of parameters or "knobs" as you call them to be in a certain place at once. It is very hard to achieve this by just turning one knob until you find something you like. It is at least a more efficient method to know your synthesizer in and out for one thing but also know how to pick apart a certain style of sound in your head as to how the sound is being manipulated.

Re: The secrets of synthesis

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:31 am
by amphibian
agreed, but that only comes from experience. You can read all the material in the world and won't know shit until you sit in front of a synth for hundreds of hours :)

Re: The secrets of synthesis

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:28 pm
by futures_untold
Good link

Thanks for posting! :)