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I'm curious as to what people think about these riff machines, or appregiators, whatever the hell they're called, where it randomizes a rhythmic pattern or a chord progression. Do proffesional artists use them? Or is it like cheating?

haha, I was just wondering. I was fucking around on FL studio, tried it out, produced this BEASTLY chord progression, so I made it into a tune. Sort of feel guilty about it.

Thoughts?

It's a very easy way to get some amazing riffs, and its done automagically. In some synths you can even set the scale you want. Cheating? No. It can sound mechanical/cold though.

amphibian wrote:It's a very easy way to get some amazing riffs, and its done automagically. In some synths you can even set the scale you want. Cheating? No. It can sound mechanical/cold though.

Yeah that's what I've noticed, it can sound very 8-bit and uninteresting.
Then God created effects.

-TraX- wrote:

amphibian wrote:It's a very easy way to get some amazing riffs, and its done automagically. In some synths you can even set the scale you want. Cheating? No. It can sound mechanical/cold though.

Yeah that's what I've noticed, it can sound very 8-bit and uninteresting.
Then God created effects.

Genesis 1:1
In the beginning, there was the DAW, and the DAW was with the Producer, and the DAW was the producer. Then GOD said, "LET THERE BE FX!" And there were FX. But then God looked down and saw that there was no use for his new fx, so he created the synthesizer. Massive was destined to be popular, while others with more capability were never noticed. On the third day, God said, "Let us make music in our likeness and our image." etc...........

jrisreal wrote:

-TraX- wrote:

amphibian wrote:It's a very easy way to get some amazing riffs, and its done automagically. In some synths you can even set the scale you want. Cheating? No. It can sound mechanical/cold though.

Yeah that's what I've noticed, it can sound very 8-bit and uninteresting.
Then God created effects.

Genesis 1:1
In the beginning, there was the DAW, and the DAW was with the Producer, and the DAW was the producer. Then GOD said, "LET THERE BE FX!" And there were FX. But then God looked down and saw that there was no use for his new fx, so he created the synthesizer. Massive was destined to be popular, while others with more capability were never noticed. On the third day, God said, "Let us make music in our likeness and our image." etc...........

PREEAAACH OOONN

Then sub-genres took over the world, spreading worldwide chaos all throughout the once peaceful, holy land.

-TraX- wrote:

jrisreal wrote:

-TraX- wrote:

amphibian wrote:It's a very easy way to get some amazing riffs, and its done automagically. In some synths you can even set the scale you want. Cheating? No. It can sound mechanical/cold though.

Yeah that's what I've noticed, it can sound very 8-bit and uninteresting.
Then God created effects.

Genesis 1:1
In the beginning, there was the DAW, and the DAW was with the Producer, and the DAW was the producer. Then GOD said, "LET THERE BE FX!" And there were FX. But then God looked down and saw that there was no use for his new fx, so he created the synthesizer. Massive was destined to be popular, while others with more capability were never noticed. On the third day, God said, "Let us make music in our likeness and our image." etc...........

PREEAAACH OOONN

Then sub-genres took over the world, spreading worldwide chaos all throughout the once peaceful, holy land.

Future Techstep garage neurojazz fusion funkstep.

-TraX- wrote:

jrisreal wrote:

-TraX- wrote:

amphibian wrote:It's a very easy way to get some amazing riffs, and its done automagically. In some synths you can even set the scale you want. Cheating? No. It can sound mechanical/cold though.

Yeah that's what I've noticed, it can sound very 8-bit and uninteresting.
Then God created effects.

Genesis 1:1
In the beginning, there was the DAW, and the DAW was with the Producer, and the DAW was the producer. Then GOD said, "LET THERE BE FX!" And there were FX. But then God looked down and saw that there was no use for his new fx, so he created the synthesizer. Massive was destined to be popular, while others with more capability were never noticed. On the third day, God said, "Let us make music in our likeness and our image." etc...........

PREEAAACH OOONN

Then sub-genres took over the world, spreading worldwide chaos all throughout the once peaceful, holy land.

amen..now let us eat

and then jesus turned wine... into FUNK!

When God created production, it was intended for good music that would reflect His holiness. He told mankind never to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for then we would start to make evil music. Eve sinned and tempted Adam into eating the forbidden fruit. At that very moment, dubstep was born. When Jesus came to die on the cross, it was meant to save our souls from the evil that is dubstep. To spare us from the certain death and destruction that time-warping bass can and will bring.

jrisreal wrote:When God created production, it was intended for good music that would reflect His holiness. He told mankind never to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for then we would start to make evil music. Eve sinned and tempted Adam into eating the forbidden fruit. At that very moment, dubstep was born. When Jesus came to die on the cross, it was meant to save our souls from the evil that is dubstep. To spare us from the certain death and destruction that time-warping bass can and will bring.

haha iv actually been really baked before and thought of something like this. just minus the adam and eve bit.

lyons238 wrote:

jrisreal wrote:When God created production, it was intended for good music that would reflect His holiness. He told mankind never to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for then we would start to make evil music. Eve sinned and tempted Adam into eating the forbidden fruit. At that very moment, dubstep was born. When Jesus came to die on the cross, it was meant to save our souls from the evil that is dubstep. To spare us from the certain death and destruction that time-warping bass can and will bring.

haha iv actually been really baked before and thought of something like this. just minus the adam and eve bit.

REALLY? HAHA well in that case,

Actually, According to the bible, Dub was an incredibly large beast made from resampling and ableton. Rumor has it that Hercules stepped on the one known as dub, and his name was then changed to Ajapai.

Random? Yes.

True?


Fuck yeah.

Skratch wrote:Actually, According to the bible, Dub was an incredibly large beast made from resampling and ableton. Rumor has it that Hercules stepped on the one known as dub, and his name was then changed to Ajapai.

Random? Yes.

True?


Fuck yeah.

no, dub is a giant beast that came out of the sea. it had seven heads and 10 horns. these heads are named Logic, Ableton, Reason, Fruity Loops, Reaper, Cubase, and Garageband. Garageband had a scar from a fatal wound it received from sucking so badly.

think it's a good way to get something down quick when your lacking in inspiration, also, you can always take bit's out and move them around if you hear one part you like.

this is one of the best features in fruity i think, especially as it lays it out in midi notes and isnt just a random midi effect like on ableton.

*SIGH. I was asking about RIFF MACHINES, not the religious history of Dubstep. But still, the replies are pretty goddamn awesome nonetheless.

Whatever works, use it! Used one in the track in my sig, basically just kept right clicking, and selecting "randomize pattern" until I found something close to what I was looking for, then modified it slightly to fit the track better.

there's nothing wrong with arpegiators. There is something very wrong with calling them "riff machines"

bro tip: try one on your bassline, with a low arp rate.
pro tip: don't arp every chord progression you ever write from here on out. No amount of verb and delay will take the cheesy trance wank-ness out of it.

jrisreal wrote:

Skratch wrote:Actually, According to the bible, Dub was an incredibly large beast made from resampling and ableton. Rumor has it that Hercules stepped on the one known as dub, and his name was then changed to Ajapai.

Random? Yes.

True?


Fuck yeah.

no, dub is a giant beast that came out of the sea. it had seven heads and 10 horns. these heads are named Logic, Ableton, Reason, Fruity Loops, Reaper, Cubase, and Garageband. Garageband had a scar from a fatal wound it received from sucking so badly.

laughed so hard when I read that xD

deamonds wrote:think it's a good way to get something down quick when your lacking in inspiration, also, you can always take bit's out and move them around if you hear one part you like.

this is one of the best features in fruity i think, especially as it lays it out in midi notes and isnt just a random midi effect like on ableton.

if you send an arp to a seperate midi track in ableton it will record the pattern so you can change it like in FL

riff machine is gay...it doesnt even come out with anything that ever sounds good with the rest of the tune. if you use it, you are lucky if it comes out with something good. it also takes away from the creativity