When a police man asks "Do you understand" did you know ...?
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:00 pm
by GV1
Some people may be aware of this, but I've recently been getting clued up about law and politics, and the stuff the Governments don't explain.
Anyway, when a police man (yes man, not officer, officer is a fictional character) reads your rights he will say "Do you understand". Understand is synonymous for "Stand Under" and in legalese terms it means just that. So when used in the context of law, especially in this case, the police man is requesting authority over you. If you say "no" the police man won't re-read them, not unless you actually ask what he means by what he just read.
It's an interesting fact. It's because when we are born as soon as we are registered at birth, we are given fictional characters by the government and are defined as a Person. In legalese terms the word Person is used to describe our fictional character. It's defined in the 3rd version of the Blackslaw book. Bear in mind the United Kingdom is a registered profit making company, so we are it's employees, we pay taxes as employees and follow company policy (everything other than common law). So we are treated as fictional characters and that's why the police request authority.
I'm only just getting my head around all this, but the fact is "Do you understand" is requesting authority not asking if you understood what was said.
Ps. another interesting one is a Summons. A summons is actually an invitation to come to a business place to discuss what needs discussing. You don't have to go. It's an invitation. And the company is the court. Yes, the court is also a registered profit making business. Everything is. Including political parties. Look on DnB (not drum and bass lol).
Re: When a police man asks "Do you understand" did you know
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:01 pm
by wolf89
Yes I did
Re: When a police man asks "Do you understand" did you know
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:04 pm
by gwa
i knew that too.
been on this for years
Re: When a police man asks "Do you understand" did you know
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:04 pm
by GV1
gwa wrote:i knew that too.
been on this for years
it's interesting shit aint it. You watched John Harris videos? He's taught me a lot man. I quite like the idea of being a FREE MAN.
Re: When a police man asks "Do you understand" did you know
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:05 pm
by clifford_-
gwa wrote:i knew that too.
been on this for years
Re: When a police man asks "Do you understand" did you know
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:07 pm
by Mr Hyde
No, I didn't know that. But I assume that they can still get you- 'right to remain silent' and all that....if you murder someone and never talk to anyone or write anything down am pretty sure they'd still put you in prison, just like not turning up to a summons they just rule in favor of the other person don't they?
Re: When a police man asks "Do you understand" did you know
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:08 pm
by Motorway to Roswell
I didn't.
Re: When a police man asks "Do you understand" did you know
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:08 pm
by apmje
I did not know this. Cheers.
Re: When a police man asks "Do you understand" did you know
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:09 pm
by gwa
GV1 wrote:
gwa wrote:i knew that too.
been on this for years
it's interesting shit aint it. You watched John Harris videos? He's taught me a lot man. I quite like the idea of being a FREE MAN.
yeah i nearly went to go see him when he was in leeds but i read that all his presentations are the same as his tpuc ones so no point really.
shame it's not really practical to be a freeman but oh well
Re: When a police man asks "Do you understand" did you know
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:14 pm
by GV1
Mr Hyde wrote:No, I didn't know that. But I assume that they can still get you- 'right to remain silent' and all that....if you murder someone and never talk to anyone or write anything down am pretty sure they'd still put you in prison, just like not turning up to a summons they just rule in favor of the other person don't they?
Well, it's not a get our of jail card. But it's interesting to see how the UK, politics and laws all tie into each other and what it's actually about. Politics is masked by the media and people are never exposed to the actual roots of the country, politics and laws.
Plus murder is a common law. We're talking about commercial policy, civil policy and political policy. When you start looking at things as they are, for example the UK is a business etc. You start to see that a number of the laws are company policies. We are employees. If we break the company contract we pay the price. But there is stuff to be done to get around and away from it. And the more you a clued up about it the less likely you are to a) make those mistakes or b) get around it.
Of course, natural and common law, you don't get away from that. If you're caught your done. Simple.
Re: When a police man asks "Do you understand" did you know
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:21 pm
by Badman Juice
so this has no actual practical effect other than in your head you can tell yourself they have no authority over you?
Re: When a police man asks "Do you understand" did you know
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:21 pm
by NickUndercover
GV1 wrote:
Mr Hyde wrote:No, I didn't know that. But I assume that they can still get you- 'right to remain silent' and all that....if you murder someone and never talk to anyone or write anything down am pretty sure they'd still put you in prison, just like not turning up to a summons they just rule in favor of the other person don't they?
Well, it's not a get our of jail card. But it's interesting to see how the UK, politics and laws all tie into each other and what it's actually about. Politics is masked by the media and people are never exposed to the actual roots of the country, politics and laws.
Plus murder is a common law. We're talking about commercial policy, civil policy and political policy. When you start looking at things as they are, for example the UK is a business etc. You start to see that a number of the laws are company policies. We are employees. If we break the company contract we pay the price. But there is stuff to be done to get around and away from it. And the more you a clued up about it the less likely you are to a) make those mistakes or b) get around it.
Of course, natural and common law, you don't get away from that. If you're caught your done. Simple.
I think you would be surprised by the number of bastards who get a way every year because there was a flaw in the process (by the policemen or w/e) and because they have a lawyer.
Re: When a police man asks "Do you understand" did you know
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:24 pm
by GV1
Badman Juice wrote:so this has no actual practical effect other than in your head you can tell yourself they have no authority over you?
Nope it has purpose. Watch John Harris videos. You just have to know what you're talking about for it to have effect.
Re: When a police man asks "Do you understand" did you know
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:25 pm
by capo ultra
GV1 wrote:
gwa wrote:i knew that too.
been on this for years
it's interesting shit aint it. You watched John Harris videos? He's taught me a lot man. I quite like the idea of being a FREE MAN.
Re: When a police man asks "Do you understand" did you know
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:27 pm
by gwa
yeah i smiled when i heard the sample when i bought it
Re: When a police man asks "Do you understand" did you know
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:31 pm
by Badman Juice
GV1 wrote:
Badman Juice wrote:so this has no actual practical effect other than in your head you can tell yourself they have no authority over you?
Nope it has purpose. Watch John Harris videos. You just have to know what you're talking about for it to have effect.
what does it stop them from being able to do?
Re: When a police man asks "Do you understand" did you know
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:33 pm
by clifford_-
Badman Juice wrote:
GV1 wrote:
Badman Juice wrote:so this has no actual practical effect other than in your head you can tell yourself they have no authority over you?
Nope it has purpose. Watch John Harris videos. You just have to know what you're talking about for it to have effect.
what does it stop them from being able to do?
fine you for ridiculous things like putting shit in the wrong bin.
Re: When a police man asks "Do you understand" did you know
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:33 pm
by kingGhost
dunno how it is in the UK, but in the USA it doesn't matter what you tell them if they caught you doing something, your ass is getting arrested lol. i have friends who talk about knowing the weird loopholes in the law in order to get out of things like possession and whatnot... i'm like "doggie, this isn't CSI, if they catch you with weed you're going down... no matter how you slice it"
Re: When a police man asks "Do you understand" did you know
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:35 pm
by clifford_-
kingGhost wrote:dunno how it is in the UK, but in the USA it doesn't matter what you tell them if they caught you doing something, your ass is getting arrested lol
youve missed the point, if your caught doing something, you deserves to get arrested.
Re: When a police man asks "Do you understand" did you know
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:51 pm
by wub
Did you know that the police in Slough & Windsor, if they ask a person who is not co-operating "Are you sure there isn't anything else I can do to calm you down?", it's the code phrase between them for "Right, let's batter this tnuc"
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