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I know the re-sample word is thrown around a lot but I just started playing with this myself. Most the stuff I have previously did was just a matter of playing different notes and adjusting the LFO speed to my liking. I would have a track for the high part of the bass then just copy the same notes to another track and use a sine wave with a tad of LFO on the volume for the sub track. I'm now re sampling as a way to put more then one bass sound together and get a more complex sound without my computer crashing on me.

So the question may sound stupid but the problem I'm having now is creating a sub layer for my re-sampled track. I know I would EQ all the low frequency out of my high/mid bass track but after that I am kind of lost on how to create a bass track for something that has no midi notes and is now just a wave form created of recorded bass clips I chopped up and arranged together.

I know this is a method that may other people like to use so if any of you could help me out that would be great!
Thanks

I just go through the process of making a new midi track with my sine wave.

Takes a LITTLE bit more time, but you know what, The more time you put into your track the better the outcome.

a lotta big producers talk about spending a month or more on one track.

for me its about remembering/saving what i do while mangling/resampling a bassline that helps when it comes to adding the sub to it. even if its an inactive track or a midi region that i stick waaayy at the end of a project file just in case i want to reference it.

so when you have a pattern of midi notes written out for your starting bassline, and then distort, twist, whatever, then bounce to audio.. you still have your same midi region, even if you end up pitch bending it or whateve all over the place, you should still have pitch bend automation to look at in that midi region, so just take that region and stick it on an inactive track and label it in some way..

then when you have your crazy finshed resampled bassline, you will have a good starting point. i usually still have to do some things by ear to match my sub to the bassline, but once i realized that everyone has to take the time to get that dialed in, i stopped giving a shit that its time consuming to do it...

hope that helps....


and regarding big producers spending a month or more on tracks. VERY TRUE. show me a producer that is spitting a finished track out in 2 days and ill show you a track full of production holes.... take your time and find your workflow.

Thank you for the tips!
I'm not concerned with spending a lot of time on a track myself as I am a perfectionist already spend a lot of time till I get things just right. Just wanted to see how everyone else was doing this.

xrylex wrote: and regarding big producers spending a month or more on tracks. VERY TRUE. show me a producer that is spitting a finished track out in 2 days and ill show you a track full of production holes.... take your time and find your workflow.

this is mostly why my music sounds like butt hole... i try to finish my songs before work or my girlfriend trys to run my life...

i couldnt imagine trying to tweak a track for a month... cant rush perfection i guess

Big Freq wrote:

xrylex wrote: and regarding big producers spending a month or more on tracks. VERY TRUE. show me a producer that is spitting a finished track out in 2 days and ill show you a track full of production holes.... take your time and find your workflow.

this is mostly why my music sounds like butt hole... i try to finish my songs before work or my girlfriend trys to run my life...

i couldnt imagine trying to tweak a track for a month... cant rush perfection i guess

When I'm short on time, I try to at least put the structure down and not focus on detailing any instruments, pretty much stay out of the Mixer channels until you've got enough down to be able to build a full song out of it. After the structure is set you can focus on making everything sound good together, it's also an advantage for the mix-down because you'll be able to hear it in full context.

Radiant wrote:

Big Freq wrote:

xrylex wrote: and regarding big producers spending a month or more on tracks. VERY TRUE. show me a producer that is spitting a finished track out in 2 days and ill show you a track full of production holes.... take your time and find your workflow.

this is mostly why my music sounds like butt hole... i try to finish my songs before work or my girlfriend trys to run my life...

i couldnt imagine trying to tweak a track for a month... cant rush perfection i guess

When I'm short on time, I try to at least put the structure down and not focus on detailing any instruments, pretty much stay out of the Mixer channels until you've got enough down to be able to build a full song out of it. After the structure is set you can focus on making everything sound good together, it's also an advantage for the mix-down because you'll be able to hear it in full context.

what instrument do you usually start off with... bass, drums, leads, fx?

In a rush or not I usual do the same as Radiant keeps the creative flow going when your not doing the EQ on one sound forever. I save that stuff till my tune is arranged the way that I want.

can't you just duplicate the resampled track and add a filter on it taking out all the high freq leaving only sub?

Big Freq wrote:

Radiant wrote:

Big Freq wrote:

xrylex wrote: and regarding big producers spending a month or more on tracks. VERY TRUE. show me a producer that is spitting a finished track out in 2 days and ill show you a track full of production holes.... take your time and find your workflow.

this is mostly why my music sounds like butt hole... i try to finish my songs before work or my girlfriend trys to run my life...

i couldnt imagine trying to tweak a track for a month... cant rush perfection i guess

When I'm short on time, I try to at least put the structure down and not focus on detailing any instruments, pretty much stay out of the Mixer channels until you've got enough down to be able to build a full song out of it. After the structure is set you can focus on making everything sound good together, it's also an advantage for the mix-down because you'll be able to hear it in full context.

what instrument do you usually start off with... bass, drums, leads, fx?

Whatever comes to mind really, usually melody/drums come first. Or climax.

sixth sense wrote:can't you just duplicate the re sampled track and add a filter on it taking out all the high freq leaving only sub?

I was thinking about trying that method. I figure it would work as long as you made sure the bass you made had a low end with a sine wave. I have watched videos where people say they just replayed the melody of the bass they re sampled and chopped up in another track with a simple sine wave manipulated to there taste. I feel like this would give a better sound then just filtering the lows and highs separate. No one really gos into detail about how they go about re creating the melody of something they chopped to all hell though. I figured I would try and do so by ear as far as I know it may be the only way. I'm pretty new to creating music though so what do I know?!?! LOL!

konig16 wrote: I was thinking about trying that method. I figure it would work as long as you made sure the bass you made had a low end with a sine wave. I have watched videos where people say they just replayed the melody of the bass they re sampled and chopped up in another track with a simple sine wave manipulated to there taste. I feel like this would give a better sound then just filtering the lows and highs separate. No one really gos into detail about how they go about re creating the melody of something they chopped to all hell though. I figured I would try and do so by ear as far as I know it may be the only way. I'm pretty new to creating music though so what do I know?!?! LOL!

Bear in mind that the sub doesnt have to follow the main melody exactly note for note. Sometimes, especially when the melody is very busy, the sub only plays a few notes in a four bar phrase.

JFK wrote:Bear in mind that the sub doesnt have to follow the main melody exactly note for note. Sometimes, especially when the melody is very busy, the sub only plays a few notes in a four bar phrase.

Would you recommend just trying to do somthing that sounds good with the Sub track then instead of trying to re create the melody note by note?

konig16 wrote:

JFK wrote:Bear in mind that the sub doesnt have to follow the main melody exactly note for note. Sometimes, especially when the melody is very busy, the sub only plays a few notes in a four bar phrase.

Would you recommend just trying to do somthing that sounds good with the Sub track then instead of trying to re create the melody note by note?

Yeah man totally. Just make sure it stays in key with the melody and you should be golden!

Cool thanks for the tip!

what i do is before i start resampling or anything i try and get the midi notes down so i know kind of how it will sound. Once i start resampling and boucning shit to audio, i make sure that each little segment is labeled with which note its playing. Then when your adding the sub you have all the notes in front of you and its just a matter of adding pitch drift or w.e