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The Zero System custom giant robot MIDI controller

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:09 pm
by The Asterite
Hello everyone,
Producer and controllerist The Asterite here, over the past year I've been making music and playing parties and even a charity fashion show with my custom setup, the Zero System. Originally inspired by classic video games and mecha anime , the Zero System has changed a lot since I first set it up last year. It currently consists of a controller from the original xbox game "Steel Battalion" (now minus pedals due to gear destruction), a Saitek X45 Joystick and throttle, and a 19 inch flatscreen dell monitor which I've removed from it's stand (so that it can either be laid flat on a table or propped upright for use while sitting.

In practice, that ends up like this
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I've written a script in a beautiful programmable input emulator called GlovePIE/.
GlovePIE is great because it allows you to easily convert HID (Human Interface Device) data, midi, and keyboard or mouse data from one form to another.
It maps each joystick, throttle, and dial to a unique continuous controller, and each button and switch to a note command.

The Live setup I played this fashion show with is similar to the one I generally use.
A few buttons on the center console are used for navigating and loading tracks onto the right and left decks. Each of these decks has an eq which can be enabled from the saitek joystick. A regular repeat is triggered by pulling the Steel Batallion trigger. Switching values on the grid will also retrigger the sample. Twin triggers of the Saitek control two "superfilters", which use sidechained compression and a sidechained, midimapped autofilter for a rather intense effect.

In addition to these repeats, three of the toggle switches are used to control mix type, on/off, and mute of a fourth repeat- which has detunes with each repeat.
When the thumbstick on top of it is pressed in, it controls the presence of a bitcrusher, the depth of which is mapped to the thumbstick.
When another button on the joystick is pressed, the left joystick also controls the presence of a rhythmic gate, the rate of which is controlled by the right joystick.


The leftmost joystick controls individually selectable things transition chains ( and so you know, most things that are individually selectable achieve that status by use of buttons for mutes, but this uses the gear shifter).
Additional buttons are used for triggering mutes with inverse waveforms on the left and right track to achieve easy rhythmic switches between two tracks, triggering a tapestop, triggering both left and right tracks at once, and selecting which channel is cueing.

But for producing, I tend to leave it blank and map midi as I need/see fit. It's fantastic for recording automation, because it's possible to simultaneously modify 5 paramaters via CC independently with ease.
There's probably more in my go-to bank I'm forgetting about, but I figure if people have more questions, let me know! If there's enough interest I'll try to see about getting some good quality video up later, especially if there are suggestions for things people want to see. In the meantime, to answer some requests I uploaded a demo video of me using the controller for live mixing/dsp to youtube, taken on my laptop's webcam.

Peace, and enjoy!

Re: The Zero System custom giant robot MIDI controller

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:36 pm
by legend4ry
Soon as I read Mecha and saw it, I loved it!

Re: The Zero System custom giant robot MIDI controller

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:50 pm
by The Asterite
Thank you!
I'm going to try to get a better quality camera and make some more videos, since this one doesn't really have a lot of explanation and the unfortunate vocal of a passer-by.

Oh, and I forgot to mention something!
I posted this on another site and was asked why the top half of my display was a screensaver...
Truth is, it's not a screensaver, but rather a custom playable visualizer I programmed that actually takes the live audio from my set and responds to the same controls as ableton. It makes it easy for me to see how/when frequencies are change/what's represented, last effect used, how good or bad my timing is, and things like that. As of right now, however, I'm still using buttons mapped to keyboard up and keyboard down to scroll in Live (which requires the window to be selected), and the visualizer also needs focus to receive keyboard input (which, through the magic of glovepie, it does). So you could say that system is still in beta and doesn't function as a complete game yet. Still extremely useful though .

Re: The Zero System custom giant robot MIDI controller

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:03 pm
by Vi Del
Creativity at it's finest. I wish I had a MIDI setup like that, props.

Re: The Zero System custom giant robot MIDI controller

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:21 pm
by frank grimes jr.
Very cool! Please don't crush us when you are stampeding thru the city.

Re: The Zero System custom giant robot MIDI controller

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:38 pm
by alphacat
Oh my fuck...

See, this is why I'm into controllerism.

Re: The Zero System custom giant robot MIDI controller

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:21 pm
by The Asterite
Thanks everyone, your words are inspiring. If anybody has anything they'd like to see in the next video or just any other questions, let me know. I use it for production too, so there's a lot to talk about.

Re: The Zero System custom giant robot MIDI controller

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:26 pm
by Hurtdeer
are you named after the giant god/monster thing from ecco the dolphin?

because you're already teasing my nerd gland enough with your awesome setup, but that would just be too much

Re: The Zero System custom giant robot MIDI controller

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:26 pm
by Ongelegen
Good stuff! :4:

Re: The Zero System custom giant robot MIDI controller

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:35 pm
by The Asterite
Hurtdeer wrote:are you named after the giant god/monster thing from ecco the dolphin?

because you're already teasing my nerd gland enough with your awesome setup, but that would just be too much
Maybe it's because it's faux latin for "One from the stars"...

Or maybe not.
Guess it's a mystery :lol:

Re: The Zero System custom giant robot MIDI controller

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:48 pm
by Hurtdeer
The Asterite wrote:
Hurtdeer wrote:are you named after the giant god/monster thing from ecco the dolphin?

because you're already teasing my nerd gland enough with your awesome setup, but that would just be too much
Maybe it's because it's faux latin for "One from the stars"...

Or maybe not.
Guess it's a mystery :lol:
i think i will continue to believe its from a video game i played as a child rather than the more rational and obvious reason :corntard:

Re: The Zero System custom giant robot MIDI controller

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:56 pm
by drokkr
Nice work! Keep us posted on the better quality video ;)

I'd love to see this used with some Breakcore...

Re: The Zero System custom giant robot MIDI controller

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 12:19 pm
by The Asterite
So I've decided that I'm definitely going to be putting up more videos, and will be getting a much better camera soon. I've got a couple of ideas for videos demonstrating the Zero System's uses. Got some interesting stuff planned, but I figured it'd also be fun to ask you guys what you'd like to see. I'm new to this forum, but it's awesome to see such activity and feedback.

You want to see it used to do something specific, post and let me know. It is not limited to DJ'ing and mixing: it's a fully functional midi controller, and can alter up to five knobs both simultaneously and individually. You want to see it used for sequencing? Making a track from scratch? Got an idea for what you'd do if you had five arms to twist knobs, or just which knobs you'd like to twist? Or if you've got an idea for a cool controller (or conversion), tell me! It may take a while for me to get my hands on the parts, but I try to build/convert cool stuff in my spare time, so I'll try to answer those requests too. It Post and let me know!

Peace
-The Asterite

Re: The Zero System custom giant robot MIDI controller

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 3:39 pm
by kaiori breathe
I think you might be the coolest man on the planet... Can I be you?