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The history of Dubstep
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:04 am
by MandorliMusic
hey mates!
I made a nice track "Storia" about the history of dubstep. It´s my first attempt to produce dubstep so I please you to give me feedback and give advice for some mixing techniques! Because I will release a new track the next few days and I am mixing it at the moment!

Thank you mates! click the link below to listen to it! this is my third attempt to get some feedback and now I hope you, the experienced ones, could give me some advice!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjpT58_qmTA
have a nice day!
Greez Mandorli
Re: The history of Dubstep
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:49 am
by joeki
no sub bass what so ever. Midrange wobbles. There's a bit of space between the percussion so even though that's a bit too trip-hoppy for my taste, I can applaud that. Overall though this is not my cup of tea.
Pretty awkward to make a track about the history of dubstep and produce a one in a dozen contemporary tune...?
Re: The history of Dubstep
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:07 pm
by MandorliMusic
Yes the sub bass was a little to much for me and as I said this were my very beginnings U know? Okay and the thing with the percussion is very interesting I´ll remember that!
Awkward in my opinion is a track with 1 or 2 8bar loops like yours.. but thanks for your opinion!!
Re: The history of Dubstep
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:09 pm
by kaiten
MandorliMusic wrote:Yes the sub bass was a little to much for me

Re: The history of Dubstep
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:16 pm
by joeki
Thanks for your advice on my track even though I didn't ask for it. I understand what you are saying BUT :
A garage tune is, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, supposed to be a tad bit repetitive. Anyway It got signed and released so I can't alter it any more. I won't participate in any further mud slinging about the quality of each others music.
You asked for an opinion, I gave one. I think it is flawed in two areas.
It lacks sub bass and I find it weird that this is promoted as a "history of dubstep" kind of thing when it's really a very contemporary tune.
I'm sure you'll get better critics/praise from people who are more into that sound.
Try working towards a sound that is more unique is the bottom line of what I'm trying to say.
Re: The history of Dubstep
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:37 pm
by MandorliMusic
don´t get me wrong dude cause I think I didn´t get you right in your first post! Yes I think it´s great that your music has got many many intersts as I saw on your soundcloud profile .. But calling it awkward was shameless in my opinion.. after all I am glad to hear your opinion and the best part bout music is that there will never be a track which is in the likings of everyone or not?
Wish you the best and keep on the good work!
Re: The history of Dubstep
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:24 pm
by ajw11491
MandorliMusic wrote: But calling it awkward was shameless in my opinion..
Dude, have you ever had any training or lessons with a musical instrument and/or a private teacher? Professionals have no problem chewing you out, breaking you down, and making you start over again. Just because Dubstep is not classical or main stream doesn't mean you can't take a main stream approach to making your chops better. Saying something sounds "awkward" is just a nice way of saying a lot of other things that probably could be said. In all honesty, you're not going to get all positive feed back on your tunes, especially when you ask for criticism. I thought it sounded pretty good though in some aspects. Anyways I am not trying to get personal or anything, just pointing out the fact; to make it far with anything in the arts or music, you have to be able to take some serious criticism and if that offends you, then you may be looking for the wrong hobby or career choice. Peace.
Re: The history of Dubstep
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:13 pm
by kaiten
ajw11491 wrote:MandorliMusic wrote: But calling it awkward was shameless in my opinion..
Dude, have you ever had any training or lessons with a musical instrument and/or a private teacher? Professionals have no problem chewing you out, breaking you down, and making you start over again. Just because Dubstep is not classical or main stream doesn't mean you can't take a main stream approach to making your chops better. Saying something sounds "awkward" is just a nice way of saying a lot of other things that probably could be said. In all honesty, you're not going to get all positive feed back on your tunes, especially when you ask for criticism. I thought it sounded pretty good though in some aspects. Anyways I am not trying to get personal or anything, just pointing out the fact; to make it far with anything in the arts or music, you have to be able to take some serious criticism and if that offends you, then you may be looking for the wrong hobby or career choice. Peace.
For real. I have a BA in Studio Art and trust me, my professors never had any problems with telling me 20 different ways why my painting or drawing was wrong when I could have sworn I was done with it.
Re: The history of Dubstep
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:38 pm
by MandorliMusic
Ajw you are my hero!
And yes kaiten thanks for your saying! Before making dubstep I was playing drums for 12 years and wrote lots of Art Rock songs. So I know what good critics are and I think you know what you are talking bout.
Greez
Re: The history of Dubstep
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:59 pm
by flood
joeki wrote:no sub bass what so ever. Midrange wobbles. There's a bit of space between the percussion so even though that's a bit too trip-hoppy for my taste, I can applaud that. Overall though this is not my cup of tea.
Pretty awkward to make a track about the history of dubstep and produce a one in a dozen contemporary tune...?
i admire your restraint(with the criticism)
to mandorli: you asked for criticism.
Re: The history of Dubstep
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:38 am
by HatchetDown
I'm pretty much on the same stance. Dubstep with no bass is like a dog with 3 legs. Sure it can walk on its own but it just don't look right.
Re: The history of Dubstep
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:21 pm
by Messter
isn't it a little bit slow?? it doesn't sounds like a 140bpm track
Re: The history of Dubstep
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:00 pm
by MandorliMusic
Just to make sure in my latest track I used a sub bass

You are right it gives just more punch and everything.. Sounds just fatter!
@ Messter: Yes you are right it is around 123 I think! In my opinion it sounded a little darker in slow tempo. Is 140 a "must have"!? I think it depends on your unique track or not? But in general 140 is the typical Dubstep - Feel

Thanks!
Re: The history of Dubstep
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:37 pm
by apmje
MandorliMusic wrote:Just to make sure in my latest track I used a sub bass

You are right it gives just more punch and everything.. Sounds just fatter!
@ Messter: Yes you are right it is around 123 I think! In my opinion it sounded a little darker in slow tempo. Is 140 a "must have"!? I think it depends on your unique track or not? But in general 140 is the typical Dubstep - Feel

Thanks!
I can't take this place no more...this week has been properly funny.
Re: The history of Dubstep
Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 9:26 am
by wilson
So this 'history of dubstep' track has no sub and isn't at 140...right

Re: The history of Dubstep
Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 10:19 pm
by hendramarshall
Re: The history of Dubstep
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 1:37 pm
by ajw11491
MandorliMusic wrote:Ajw you are my hero!

Re: The history of Dubstep
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 3:29 pm
by Vi Del
waaaayyyyyt wuh?
Re: The history of Dubstep
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 3:51 pm
by Icey
ajw11491 wrote:MandorliMusic wrote: But calling it awkward was shameless in my opinion..
Dude, have you ever had any training or lessons with a musical instrument and/or a private teacher? Professionals have no problem chewing you out, breaking you down, and making you start over again. Just because Dubstep is not classical or main stream doesn't mean you can't take a main stream approach to making your chops better. Saying something sounds "awkward" is just a nice way of saying a lot of other things that probably could be said. In all honesty, you're not going to get all positive feed back on your tunes, especially when you ask for criticism. I thought it sounded pretty good though in some aspects. Anyways I am not trying to get personal or anything, just pointing out the fact; to make it far with anything in the arts or music, you have to be able to take some serious criticism and if that offends you, then you may be looking for the wrong hobby or career choice. Peace.
This. Every time I presented something new to my guitar teacher, he put on his stone face and just torn up the part. Really fun guy, but man, when he started critising.
On topic, the tune wasn't good. It was in no way the story of dubstep, no sub bass etc etc etc
Re: The history of Dubstep
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 5:39 pm
by south3rn
you've successfully disgraced the history of dubstep