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Ok so I am a huge fan of FM synthesis. I have wav's (other than one-shot waveforms) that I want to FM the same way as I would in a synth. Sytrus works with one-shot waveforms only, so how would I go about FM'ing a longer waveform?

EDIT: I don't have cash to spend at the moment, so I would appreciate any free samplers/plugins that have this feature

in Karmafx modular you can use audio signals to modulate everything. As it has a sampler you could use this to modulate a simple oscillator, which sounds pretty nice, but the other way round I always ended up in a mess.

buttock wrote:in Karmafx modular you can use audio signals to modulate everything. As it has a sampler you could use this to modulate a simple oscillator, which sounds pretty nice, but the other way round I always ended up in a mess.

Oops, forgot to mention I dont have cash to spend on anything at the moment

I'm not aware of any free vst that can do something like this.

So you want something that FM synthesis does, modulators modulating operators, but you want the modulator and operators to be audio samples?

that's the way I understood it.

yeah thats pretty much it. modulators can be oscillators though.

maybe you should try reaper, because it is possible to use any audiosource as modulation input on any vst parameter.

buttock wrote:maybe you should try reaper, because it is possible to use any audiosource as modulation input on any vst parameter.

lol. aint about to daws for something like this. i just paid $300 for a legit copy of FL

Absynth will do this, AFAIK, but its not free...

dang. im starting to get into FL Synthmaker...have no idea how it works just yet, but I'm thinking it can be a huge step in my synthesis and I'd probably be able to do this somehow with Synthmaker once I learn how to use it

Isn't ring modulation and FM basicly the same thing ? You could still use a vst if your sampler doesn't have that feature.

daft tnuc wrote:Isn't ring modulation and FM basicly the same thing ? You could still use a vst if your sampler doesn't have that feature.

ring modulation modulates the volume output but frequency modulation modulates the frequency...not the same. and to clarify, FL default sampler CAN do FM, but only by setting an LFO to the pitch and turning the speed all the way up. And the modulator's frequency can't be controlled without going back to the inaudible range.

jrisreal wrote:

daft tnuc wrote:Isn't ring modulation and FM basicly the same thing ? You could still use a vst if your sampler doesn't have that feature.

ring modulation modulates the volume output but frequency modulation modulates the frequency...not the same. and to clarify, FL default sampler CAN do FM, but only by setting an LFO to the pitch and turning the speed all the way up. And the modulator's frequency can't be controlled without going back to the inaudible range.

Damn you are smart

I think you can make one in synthmaker. I made a synth which enabled me to draw waveshapes manually. Only issue was getting it to save with the FLP.
I never tried dragging waveshapes in because untill recently, I never had any to try with, but not got that synth anymore, comp crashed a while back

paradigm x wrote:Absynth will do this, AFAIK, but its not free...

Really? I really need to dig into absynth. Of all of komplete, it is by far my least used plugin. I've opened it three or four times, tried some presets that I didn't like, squinted at the ugly interface that I PATENTLY didn't understand, and just closed the fucker.

nowaysj wrote:

paradigm x wrote:Absynth will do this, AFAIK, but its not free...

Really? I really need to dig into absynth. Of all of komplete, it is by far my least used plugin. I've opened it three or four times, tried some presets that I didn't like, squinted at the ugly interface that I PATENTLY didn't understand, and just closed the fucker.

Massive isn't the most beautiful piece of either imo

Wait, wut? Were you saying Massive? I literally think that is the best designed synth vst gui out there. I really really like it. Very logical flow, roomy without being big, tangible without being jokey and inaccurate, muted colors with just the right amount of contrast, without being too dark. I can and do literally stare at that thing for hours every day. I really like that ui man!

nowaysj wrote:Wait, wut? Were you saying Massive? I literally think that is the best designed synth vst gui out there. I really really like it. Very logical flow, roomy without being big, tangible without being jokey and inaccurate, muted colors with just the right amount of contrast, without being too dark. I can and do literally stare at that thing for hours every day. I really like that ui man!

Meh, situation of preference I guess.

I don't like the interface mainly because the look of it reminds me of some ugly freeware I used to use.

hate to go off topic on your post jr but are you yanking all this fm knowledge from any where specific i know we're on the same daw and im really getting into sytrus just wanna keep pushing further

edit: really didnt mean to go off topic i just see you standing for FM, and wanna know where youre getting proper from