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Carts and Styli for dubstep
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:49 pm
by apfrod
My needles are a bit worn and I'm getting distortion and the odd skip on these loud, heavy dubstep tunes. They're probably cut as loud as vinyl can go!
So before I part with the shekels for some new ones has anyone got any recommendations or will a fresh pair of Stanton 500 AL-II's be sufficient to handle the sheer weight?
What are the bass specialists rocking these days? Maybe turn this into a poll or something.
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:14 pm
by natter
My needles strain under the pressure too. No skips but a little distortion at times.
I'm using Ortofon Concorde Pro S. Dunno if they're any good or what really. I'd too like to know what the best needles are for handling bass heavy shit.
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:32 pm
by wooders
Not sure if they're best for bass but I been using Shure M-447 for about 3 years now, I skratch a bit (badly) and I Love em! These boys wont skip in an earthe quake!
I've heard some say they wear your records out quicker but I havent noticed. Cant recomend them enough!!!!
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:36 pm
by unlikely
just dont get ortofon GTs!
one of mine literally snapped about 3 weeks after purchase, looks like the suspension had metal fatigue
waste!
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:00 pm
by n-type
ORftons will eat ur dubs! well thats wot everyone told me so i went back to stanton. shure sound the best!
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:26 pm
by subframe
Ortofons are my personal choice. Solidly made, loud, etc. Bit heavy, though. Might be willing to switch if I was playing dubs...
What about the White labels? Some friends of mine swear by 'em...
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:47 pm
by autonomic
Shure SC35Cs for me. Not that I'm much of a DJ but they're cheap and they sound plenty good to me on a nice system. They only seem to jump out on warped vinyl. Otherwise they're pretty solid, although they look like they're holding on for dear life when I turn the motor off on a real bassy wobbler. Not sure if it's an alignment problem or just the nature of the beast.
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:55 am
by thejudge
Im using the stanton 980SA's. Bought them about 2 years ago as an upgrade to the 500's & they are imho the best all rounder's out there
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:40 am
by doomstep
... I gotta go someplace else to get my shit. The guys that work across the road from my job look at me funny when I say dubstep or grime ... I been using ortofons ... but I dunno now, its an expensive thing t' experiment wif tho, trial n error style.
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:01 am
by ghettobot
i use technics headshells with stanton 500 carts. pretty solid.
i have never cared for ortofon's, but i would try again if i could get some that would trak and back-cue well... and NOT eat my dubs! i was planning to eat them m;self!
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:37 pm
by lohan
Shure M447's if youre cutting dubs, nice rounded nib, doesn't cut the hell outta your dubplates like ortofons, bit more bottom end and higher volume too, can't go wrong.
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:03 pm
by 4linehaiku
The Sure M44G's are almost identical to the M447's, but apparently sound a little nicer in the top end. Trade off is slightly less unskipability, but they are still solid.
I can't say I ever have skipping issues with 'em, and I scratch alot. And of course, they still got the big bottom end and high output volume of the M447's.
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 3:38 am
by jeffsta
anyone know if pink ortofon scratch needles would eat my plates less than stanton craze 520s
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 11:09 am
by alcane
All needles are pale in comparison to the Shure M44-7's.
These have the best bass response/volume of any cart, and of course takes a hell of a lot of vibration for these babys to skip... recommended!
Ortofons, etc may look nice but theres simply no substance to their looks!
I've been using these since 2001 and have never looked back...
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 11:13 am
by Whistla
Ortofons not only eat your dubplates but they eat your vinyls too!
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 12:27 pm
by nazoreth
surely if ortofons are eating your vinyl its because the weight is slightly too high? im probably wrong but i setup my turntables with the lowest weight possible before it ever skips just so that it isn't eating the plate so much
ive been using them for 6 months, havent particularly noticed any degradation and ive tried comparing old plates with brand new plates
just my couple o' pence, please prove me wrong
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 12:59 pm
by q23
Sure brand SC35C or better, -The work horse of the industry
They have a few different models, some better for tracking, some better for audio quality, and some made for balance.
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 2:02 pm
by ST100
N-TYPE wrote:ORftons will eat ur dubs!
Ortofons will eat up your vinyl in general.
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 4:33 pm
by brass monkey
well after a bit of research i think im gunna buy the Shure M44h's from here:
http://www.djsuperstore.co.uk/item/cart ... ell-£65.00
a good buy?
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 5:00 pm
by fused_forces
Shure M447's all day long.