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				Sub Bass questions/techniques
				Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 6:37 pm
				by Chris_Baish
				So I just recently posted a new track on the forum for some feedback. One of the replies I received was "add sub bass, no sub bass". In my bassline I had one oscillator down one octave and another down two octaves to get that low end on the bassline. Basically my question is when is it necessary to use a sub bass? I understand using a sub bass in intros, breaks, etc helps to make the track sound fuller. But is it proper to use another layer of sub bass over the existing bassline?
Also if anyone has advice on sub bass use, theory, technique it would be appreciated!
			 
			
					
				Re: Sub Bass questions/techniques
				Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 6:50 pm
				by ToxicBass
				
			 
			
					
				Re: Sub Bass questions/techniques
				Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 6:52 pm
				by hxczach
				You could split the frequencies (Low, Mid, High), and replace your low frequency with a dedicated sine wave sub bass.
			 
			
					
				Re: Sub Bass questions/techniques
				Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:06 pm
				by lyons238
				yeah its proper to cut the low end off your existing bassline and add effects to it and then have a dedicated sine wave for your sub bass with no fx on it...
			 
			
					
				Re: Sub Bass questions/techniques
				Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:29 pm
				by Chris_Baish
				lyons238 wrote:yeah its proper to cut the low end off your existing bassline and add effects to it and then have a dedicated sine wave for your sub bass with no fx on it...
Okay then my next question would be, would you run the sub base through an lfo at the same frequencies? or use no lfo and have it just as a sine? More or less meaning if i have a wobble bassline, would i automate the sub bass to wobble with the existing bassline or not?
 
			
					
				Re: Sub Bass questions/techniques
				Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 10:01 pm
				by Dystinkt
				its a matter of what sounds best for the track my friend, if assigning the sub an lfo sounds good with your mid, then do it.
			 
			
					
				Re: Sub Bass questions/techniques
				Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 10:56 pm
				by lyons238
				Chris_Baish wrote:lyons238 wrote:yeah its proper to cut the low end off your existing bassline and add effects to it and then have a dedicated sine wave for your sub bass with no fx on it...
Okay then my next question would be, would you run the sub base through an lfo at the same frequencies? or use no lfo and have it just as a sine? More or less meaning if i have a wobble bassline, would i automate the sub bass to wobble with the existing bassline or not?
 
depends on what your going for. but yes many times you will assign the sub bass to an lfo that follows the same rate as the mid bass.
i do this in reason by having my bass synth and sub bass synth all put into a combinator, then i route one combinator knob to control both the lfo's in the bass and sub bass synths. not sure how you would do this in any other program..
 
			
					
				Re: Sub Bass questions/techniques
				Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:26 am
				by Chris_Baish
				lyons238 wrote:Chris_Baish wrote:lyons238 wrote:yeah its proper to cut the low end off your existing bassline and add effects to it and then have a dedicated sine wave for your sub bass with no fx on it...
Okay then my next question would be, would you run the sub base through an lfo at the same frequencies? or use no lfo and have it just as a sine? More or less meaning if i have a wobble bassline, would i automate the sub bass to wobble with the existing bassline or not?
 
depends on what your going for. but yes many times you will assign the sub bass to an lfo that follows the same rate as the mid bass.
i do this in reason by having my bass synth and sub bass synth all put into a combinator, then i route one combinator knob to control both the lfo's in the bass and sub bass synths. not sure how you would do this in any other program..
 
Thats what I normally do as well.. I create three instances of malstrom (high, mid, low). Apparently i just need to make my low end more punchy!
 
			
					
				Re: Sub Bass questions/techniques
				Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 2:32 pm
				by larspro
				layer them sounds