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the tunes i am hearing on here are banging..

are there any unspoken rules, regarding further plays of downloaded tunes?

some might think this is a dumb post, but i am asking with respect to all producers..

nuff luv..

bruv as long as you play them with respect to jah and those allmighty we dont give a fuck

if someone publicly posts a 320, i don't know how they could not want someone to play it out.

All is fine, unless you mash forum dubs up with some gangsta bangery nonsense and put out your own 320s of 320'd 320s.

just holla back at the producers so they know their tunes are getting played outside bedrooms and car stereos

i wish rick james wouldn't put his muddy feet on the sofa!

Charlie Muuuurrrrppphhhheeeeeehhhhh!!!!! gettin the bitch slap!

About the 320s, though, if it's posted it probably wants to be played.

If it's sent personally, it also probably wants to get played, but just by the person it was sent to!

nice one guys,,

i cant say i know what 320s are, but i am getting the idea..

big up,
like the community feedback... its encouraging...

one

multi-play wrote:nice one guys,,

i cant say i know what 320s are, but i am getting the idea..

big up,
like the community feedback... its encouraging...

one

320ies refers to the quality of a mp3 file. 320 means that the file is compressed at a rate of 320kilobits per second. Basically, it's a high quality, playable dub in digital format.

if you DL something and like it enough to play it out/on radio, it would be common courtesy to let the producer know. Not obligatory, but pretty poor manners not to do so.

I always post in a thread if I like a tune I've DLed anyway - the more people do that, the more recognition the better tunes/producers get and the more chance of getting noticed/signed/played out they have.

what i'm wonderin is if u r a PRS member and u can prove that someone has played ur track on radio or in a club and more than x amount of people where listening or there shud we be getting paid??

rekorder wrote:what i'm wonderin is if u r a PRS member and u can prove that someone has played ur track on radio or in a club and more than x amount of people where listening or there shud we be getting paid??

That kinda thing isn't going to do good things to the scene, as people won't play your stuff if they think they're going to have to pay for it every time.

If you want to make some money and your shit is good enough, cut some vinyl. I know there's a good bunch of 320s of forumdubs i have that i'd still pay a tenner for a vinyl version of.

just my 2p.

simian

simian wrote:If you want to make some money and your shit is good enough, cut some vinyl. I know there's a good bunch of 320s of forumdubs i have that i'd still pay a tenner for a vinyl version of.simian

ill second that. theres so much stuff on here that could sell very well if it was commercialised.

i like the whole diy aspect of it as it is at the minute tho.

but i think if someone lets you have a tune then they want it heard whether on headphones on in a club, but common courtesy dictates you should let them know how it went donw in a club or what you thought of it in your headphones

simian wrote:That kinda thing isn't going to do good things to the scene, as people won't play your stuff if they think they're going to have to pay for it every time.

nah the dj's wont have to pay to play ur tracks, the PRS is funded by clubs, pubs, shops, radio stations etc who pay the PRS license in order to be able to legally play music and they then pay out money to artists whose tracks have been played on radio or at a rave. get to know!

EDIT: might not be the same in other countries

horse wrote:

simian wrote:If you want to make some money and your shit is good enough, cut some vinyl. I know there's a good bunch of 320s of forumdubs i have that i'd still pay a tenner for a vinyl version of.simian

ill second that. theres so much stuff on here that could sell very well if it was commercialised.

i like the whole diy aspect of it as it is at the minute tho.

but i think if someone lets you have a tune then they want it heard whether on headphones on in a club, but common courtesy dictates you should let them know how it went donw in a club or what you thought of it in your headphones

The commercialization of the music for some outweigh their original intention for creating it. There are tons of software developers that create software that is freely distributable at NO COST that rival commerical offerings. I tend to appreciate those applications more. Not to say that if a person prefers to be compensated for their effort that they shouldn't, there are some things that we do for the love of the art and money is NOT a factor. Same could be said for some DJs, what's the intent? to orchestrate a killer party through selection and skill or to simply get paid. ( IE: Wedding DJs or Top 40 Jocks who are bombared with request for a nonsensical 8 bar looped dirty south hip hop track - like that chicken noodle soup song from a while back or being asked to play 50cent "at the club" for the millionth time).

to anyone who really feels that a track that they obtained from the forum moved them in that way, sharing the feedback may be proper compensation. (maybe you can send the artist something more valuable to them than money by asking them directly)

I think that the having a tune which was purchased on vinyl still feels "OFFICIAL" to most people and its hard to get away from that. I often feel the same way, I've owed digital playback systems since the first final scratch and still struggle with buying the 12" or the MP3. I recently moved into a Loft space where there are no closets and where the records are taking up valuable real estate and becoming a challenge for decor that I now have an effective catalyst for change. Digital whenever possible, vinyl if unavailable otherwise, and that requires more careful consideration as well.

My point is , I dont think that everyone here has financial gain, Pressed record release aspirations or underground "celebrity" as their motivator. But then there are the "I was a nobody in scene X now I'm a baller" personalities here as well. I already met a few unfortunately.

rekorder wrote:

simian wrote:That kinda thing isn't going to do good things to the scene, as people won't play your stuff if they think they're going to have to pay for it every time.

nah the dj's wont have to pay to play ur tracks, the PRS is funded by clubs, pubs, shops, radio stations etc who pay the PRS license in order to be able to legally play music and they then pay out money to artists whose tracks have been played on radio or at a rave. get to know!

EDIT: might not be the same in other countries

completely correct, that's how it works in most countries and definitely in the UK - if you are a member of a royalty association like the PRS (Performers' Rights Society), then the license fee is paid by the venue/radio station to them, and they distribute the royalties to their registered artists according to how many times their tunes got played, and when & where.

This is why we as gigging DJs in clubs/on the radio are supposed to submit a playlist of every tune we play, and the licensee (club/broadcaster) is supposed to forward these to the PRS. Unfortunately this hardly happens, meaning that all the money owed to underground artists having their tunes played in clubs actually goes to all the popstars like Robbie & Britney having their shit played on internet jukeboxes in pubs (which do all the submissions automatically). If you want more info on this just ask.


No DJ should have to pay to play in any situation that I'm aware of, at least not in relation to license/royalties anyway.

hmm... are u sure the undergound artists will get any money out of this ??? i mean, i'm not familiar with how things work in the uk, but here in greece you need to have your track played in the radio something like 100 times every day for a month to get any money out of it. On the other hand, artists who have a contract with these licencing rights companies need to have their label pay money to these organizations to release their music, which when u sell 500-1000 copies can be up to 500 euro, but the sales are so small that the artist gets no money back. Percentages of loyalties payed to the artist are a joke, u need to sell like 30000 records to get money back... Also the clubs are supposed to pay for rights for the tracks played but i never heard any of my producer friends here getting any money, even though their tracks are played. This whole licenscing rights company shit is a complete ripoff here, the companies are super rich and the only ones who get payed are pop artists who have crazy amounts of airplay. so sign up, make your label manager's life more difficult and gain nothing out of it... Anyway i said it before, maybe things run differently in the uk, but i think is not only greece where things are this way...

ThinKing wrote: completely correct, that's how it works in most countries and definitely in the UK - if you are a member of a royalty association like the PRS (Performers' Rights Society), then the license fee is paid by the venue/radio station to them, and they distribute the royalties to their registered artists according to how many times their tunes got played, and when & where.

Aaaah, ok . My bad, misunderstood quite how it works.

simian