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this is gonna be a barrel of skrillex begging metalcore dubstep laughs

Yeah had a feeling after that collaboration with skrillex
Korn are grasping at straws to stay relevant these days I think.

Then again I dunno, they had some experimental electronic remixes in the 90s that I enjoyed. I'll check it out, maybe I'll like this more than their last couple of albums.

Alright..you know what? This is getting out of hand.

wormcode wrote: Korn are grasping at straws to stay relevant these days I think.

Said this in the main forum. Didn't think it could get any worse than " So I take my face and bash it into a mirror
I won't have to see the pain" but it looks like it might.

wormcode wrote:Yeah had a feeling after that collaboration with skrillex
Korn are grasping at straws to stay relevant these days I think.

True man, this is exactly what I thought. But maybe your right you know, they basically reinvented metal when they came out, they liked their remixes etc, maybe were being hard on them. People have to dig what they do, if I were them Id want to make dubstep rather than flogging the same dead horse over and over.

I actually hope this takes off for them, I hope it gets big in America. Itll be a bastardisation of what we consider Dubstep but so what, music has to move forward, we will always have our sound. Metal was invented by bands like Zeppelin, Sabbath and Iron Maiden in the late 70s/early 80s in the uk, its 2011 now, things are getting stale. Zeppelin fans might listen to american metal now and think christ, this is really awful, but the fact that somebody kept the movement going and kept it relevant means we still talk about Zeppelin, people still go back now and check that shit out, it didnt just disappear like so much good music has over the years. A lot of DnB fans hate Dusbtep but you know, Dubsteps the best thing thats happened to DnB in 10 years, love it or hate it, it brought people back to rave music and kept it alive.

As I long as I dont have listen to it Im willing to wish it the best

i read scorn and thought yay
clicked link and read korn and thought no

Korn are the next Burial.

Brian Oblivion wrote:they basically reinvented metal when they came out

No they didn't, they're the '90s rock equivalent of Skrillex.

oh dear

Ministry started as a shitty techno outfit.

Maybe Korn will surprise us.

Then again, maybe not.

Genevieve wrote:

Brian Oblivion wrote:they basically reinvented metal when they came out

No they didn't, they're the '90s rock equivalent of Skrillex.

I beg to differ my friend. When they released their first album thrash metal was pretty much the cutting edge of the sound, Pantera, Machine Head, Fear Factory etc, they spearheaded nu metal along with the Def Tones which brought hip hop and thrash traits together and ushered in a new era. I hate nu metal, I hate the term and I hate most of the music, Ill always be a Pantera fan, Nne Inch Nails etc, I cant deal with this Linkin Park bullshit music, but like it or not Korn came with something new and it blew up and set the tone for a million and one rip off artists. SKrillex isnt doing anything new, he hasnt changed anything.

Brian Oblivion wrote:I beg to differ my friend. When they released their first album thrash metal was pretty much the cutting edge of the sound, Pantera, Machine Head, Fear Factory etc,

None of those bands are thrash metal. Thrash metal was declared dead by the '90s. This is the stuff people call 'groove metal' or 'post-thrash', which is considered a huuuuuuge influence on Korn and the like. Turning the guitar into more of a rhythmic instrument rather than a lead. A lot of Pantera riffs were straight up ripped off on the first Korn record.

Brian Oblivion wrote:they spearheaded nu metal along with the Def Tones which brought hip hop and thrash traits together and ushered in a new era. I hate nu metal, I hate the term and I hate most of the music, Ill always be a Pantera fan, Nne Inch Nails etc, I cant deal with this Linkin Park bullshit music, but like it or not Korn came with something new and it blew up and set the tone for a million and one rip off artists. SKrillex isnt doing anything new, he hasnt changed anything.

What Korn was doing was going on since the mid '80s in the Los Angeles area. It's what a lot of people were calling 'funk rock' or 'funk metal'. Faith No More did it before them (and that's what Korn basically was, a poor appropriation of Faith No More). None of those bands did anything remarkably different.



Rapping, slapped basslines, mostly focused on groove and rhythm and it was done in '89.

The metal heads called it a poor appropriation of metal and said that it shouldn't even be called metal (which I tend to agree with, not that it matters). You know, for kids, for the masses, no skill, etc. Pretty much the exact same thing people are saying about brostep musicians and the fans of the style responded to it like fans of brostep do "get with the times, it's a progressio of metal.. etc".

Gonna just go there and say I think Linkin Park is quite talented for the style of music they do. Lyrics aren't so cheesy and meaningless, decent melodic stuctures, Chester's vocal range..etc. I always gave them a pass.

imo Korn got more of their influences from Sepultura and Pantera than most others.

Woah. We talking Thrash metal!?