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				Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HELP!!
				Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:04 pm
				by LucazMusik
				Hi im having some trouble with my kick drums... 
Heres a tune i made last night 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=balzjO7eMv4 .. Ive only been making dubstep for a short period of time so bare with me  
 
& Here is the kind of kick drum i am trying to achieve.. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OT5HOomN7k .. 
What am i doing wrong? is it the sample/vst he is using that just gives it that fat sound or is he doing something else (Compressing ect)
Sorry i am a total noob but you gotta start somewhere right?
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL
				Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:11 pm
				by ChadDub
				for not producing for a long time, those basses are pretty sick. What'd you use?
and the kick sounds fine to me.
			 
			
					
				Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL
				Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:19 pm
				by LucazMusik
				ChadDub wrote:for not producing for a long time, those basses are pretty sick. What'd you use?
and the kick sounds fine to me.
Thanks man!! I used massive for the bass.
I dunno man ive been told by a few people that my kicks are too weak :/
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL
				Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:21 pm
				by jrisreal
				the tracks sound just the same imo.  kick drum is the same.  u could try subtle distortion/bitcrushing, increase lows and highs and decrease mids.  compression.  transient shaping. etc.
			 
			
					
				Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL
				Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:23 pm
				by ToxicBass
				Slight bit of tube distortion. 
Route to a bus and add a very short reverb. 
Layer a kick that has nice lows with a kick that has nice mid/high end character.
			 
			
					
				Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL
				Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:30 pm
				by LucazMusik
				ToxicBass wrote:Slight bit of tube distortion. 
Route to a bus and add a very short reverb. 
Layer a kick that has nice lows with a kick that has nice mid/high end character.
So i just route to an fx track & add a short reverb on it? like short decay time or? 
& im a massive noob lol im not sure what this lows and highs & mids stuff means 
Is it like the low is more of a subby thing where as the high is like a piercing sound? lol that was a poor explanation
*EDIT* i meant my explanation just incase you thought i meant yours lolll  

 
			 
			
					
				Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL
				Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:33 pm
				by jrisreal
				LucazMusik wrote:ToxicBass wrote:Slight bit of tube distortion. 
Route to a bus and add a very short reverb. 
Layer a kick that has nice lows with a kick that has nice mid/high end character.
So i just route to an fx track & add a short reverb on it? like short decay time or? 
& im a massive noob lol im not sure what this lows and highs & mids stuff means 
Is it like the low is more of a subby thing where as the high is like a piercing sound? lol that was a poor explanation
*EDIT* i meant my explanation just incase you thought i meant yours lolll  

 
yeah thats it.  lows are the in the bass range.  highs are in the justin bieber range.  and mids are in between.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL
				Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:34 pm
				by LucazMusik
				jrisreal wrote:LucazMusik wrote:ToxicBass wrote:Slight bit of tube distortion. 
Route to a bus and add a very short reverb. 
Layer a kick that has nice lows with a kick that has nice mid/high end character.
So i just route to an fx track & add a short reverb on it? like short decay time or? 
& im a massive noob lol im not sure what this lows and highs & mids stuff means 
Is it like the low is more of a subby thing where as the high is like a piercing sound? lol that was a poor explanation
*EDIT* i meant my explanation just incase you thought i meant yours lolll  

 
yeah thats it.  lows are the in the bass range.  highs are in the justin bieber range.  and mids are in between.
 
"Justin bieber range" lmfao
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL
				Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:53 pm
				by Lectric
				Layer 3 kicks: 1 in the hihgs, 1 in mids, one subby kick with a long tail. eq them and compress, and transient shape.
			 
			
					
				Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL
				Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:07 pm
				by LucazMusik
				Lectric wrote:Layer 3 kicks: 1 in the hihgs, 1 in mids, one subby kick with a long tail. eq them and compress, and transient shape.
Okay ive just got a transient shaper from schaack audio , is that one any good?
& What kind of eqing would i do , im not very familiar with this stuff yet
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL
				Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:10 pm
				by jrisreal
				did you buy it or get the demo?  it looks pretty good to me, but silence one every ten seconds is a no go. try flux bittersweet.
also the eq'ing.  well what daw are you in?  does it have a native eq? probably so use that one and boost the lows and highs and lower the mids
			 
			
					
				Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL
				Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:20 pm
				by LucazMusik
				jrisreal wrote:did you buy it or get the demo?  it looks pretty good to me, but silence one every ten seconds is a no go. try flux bittersweet.
also the eq'ing.  well what daw are you in?  does it have a native eq? probably so use that one and boost the lows and highs and lower the mids
I got a demo , im using fl studio , where can i get flux bittersweet from?
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL
				Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:26 pm
				by jrisreal
				LucazMusik wrote:jrisreal wrote:did you buy it or get the demo?  it looks pretty good to me, but silence one every ten seconds is a no go. try flux bittersweet.
also the eq'ing.  well what daw are you in?  does it have a native eq? probably so use that one and boost the lows and highs and lower the mids
I got a demo , im using fl studio , where can i get flux bittersweet from?
 
just look on google. its free (but for some reason, won't show up in my library >:-(
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL
				Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:40 pm
				by LucazMusik
				jrisreal wrote:LucazMusik wrote:jrisreal wrote:did you buy it or get the demo?  it looks pretty good to me, but silence one every ten seconds is a no go. try flux bittersweet.
also the eq'ing.  well what daw are you in?  does it have a native eq? probably so use that one and boost the lows and highs and lower the mids
I got a demo , im using fl studio , where can i get flux bittersweet from?
 
just look on google. its free (but for some reason, won't show up in my library >:-(
 
i got it 

 , you know you said to turn the highs and lows up and turn the mids down , how much are we talking im failing to understand lol 
 
http://imageshack.us/f/29/unlediob.png/ am i doing it completely wrong?
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL
				Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:44 pm
				by jrisreal
				LucazMusik wrote:jrisreal wrote:LucazMusik wrote:jrisreal wrote:did you buy it or get the demo?  it looks pretty good to me, but silence one every ten seconds is a no go. try flux bittersweet.
also the eq'ing.  well what daw are you in?  does it have a native eq? probably so use that one and boost the lows and highs and lower the mids
I got a demo , im using fl studio , where can i get flux bittersweet from?
 
just look on google. its free (but for some reason, won't show up in my library >:-(
 
i got it 

 , you know you said to turn the highs and lows up and turn the mids down , how much are we talking im failing to understand lol 
 
http://imageshack.us/f/29/unlediob.png/ am i doing it completely wrong?
 
nope thats pretty much right.  heres a screenshot of mine.  I'm in FL too, but I like to use Reaper's EQ

 
			 
			
					
				Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL
				Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:47 pm
				by LucazMusik
				jrisreal wrote:LucazMusik wrote:jrisreal wrote:LucazMusik wrote:jrisreal wrote:did you buy it or get the demo?  it looks pretty good to me, but silence one every ten seconds is a no go. try flux bittersweet.
also the eq'ing.  well what daw are you in?  does it have a native eq? probably so use that one and boost the lows and highs and lower the mids
I got a demo , im using fl studio , where can i get flux bittersweet from?
 
just look on google. its free (but for some reason, won't show up in my library >:-(
 
i got it 

 , you know you said to turn the highs and lows up and turn the mids down , how much are we talking im failing to understand lol 
 
http://imageshack.us/f/29/unlediob.png/ am i doing it completely wrong?
 
nope thats pretty much right.  heres a screenshot of mine.  I'm in FL too, but I like to use Reaper's EQ

 
Thanks so much for taking the time to help me 
 
Should i do the same eq settings for my bass too ? or.. & ive installed this flux bittersweet but it doesnt show up when i scan for vsts
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL
				Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:02 am
				by jrisreal
				LucazMusik wrote:
Thanks so much for taking the time to help me 
 
Should i do the same eq settings for my bass too ? or.. & ive installed this flux bittersweet but it doesnt show up when i scan for vsts
 
Don't mention it 
 
For the bass, I would do the opposite, and sidechain the mix of it to the kick drum...but that may be too complicated.  If it is, just don't put the eq on the bass.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL
				Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:04 am
				by LucazMusik
				jrisreal wrote:LucazMusik wrote:
Thanks so much for taking the time to help me 
 
Should i do the same eq settings for my bass too ? or.. & ive installed this flux bittersweet but it doesnt show up when i scan for vsts
 
Don't mention it 
 
For the bass, I would do the opposite, and sidechain the mix of it to the kick drum...but that may be too complicated.  If it is, just don't put the eq on the bass.
 
I think i know how to sidechain with the peak controller 

 again you are a star for helping  

 
			 
			
					
				Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL
				Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:21 am
				by zerbaman
				Want a fat kick?
Feed it bass.
			 
			
					
				Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL
				Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:23 am
				by LucazMusik
				zerbaman wrote:Want a fat kick?
Feed it bass.
Have no idea how to do that LOL ):