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Kind of self explanitory. Do you guys just do this by ear?....

I just remember it?

I remember it.

But I do have a pitch detection Vst just in case.

Sine69 wrote:I remember it.

But I do have ears just in case.

fixed

jrisreal wrote:

Sine69 wrote:I remember it.

But I do have ears just in case.

fixed

I wish I could do that. It was especially bad when I played guitar, I could never learn songs by ear

I just keep playing a C

Well... I meant pitching your note up or down to reach your desired note. That IS how it works, right? When I through my clip into a sampler, it's not playing the same note. So I have to go and find that bastard.

Wait... If you're resampling how do you not know the note? When I resample I write the key I want the tune to be in up to (One octave down and one up) - bounce all the notes down and drag the audio back in and resample it that way.. I thought thats the 'normal' way?

I have bounces of clean saws, squares and triangles as well as a few reeces in multi-sample format ready to resampling... It saves a lot of time

I am so confused. Ok here's whats up. I make a sound in my synth, then maybe add some FX, and then bounce that so I can play with it in my sampler. I might even decide to automate some parameters while it's still in the synth. Ok so now I have my clip in let's say C. I import it into the sampler and the note I'm hearing is like a million octaves down. So I find the area that sounds just about right and play the original clip to check if it is indeed correct. Nope it's not. Oh and lets say there was a wobble or something in the clip, the higher the note on the keyboard that I play, the faster the wobble. I'm about to shit my pants at this point. There seems to be a billion steps to getting a single fucking sound. Talk about killing the creative flow and getting absolutely nowhere. Can someone please guide me in the propper direction? I'm about to go buck wild.

I don't know what sampler you're using, but if you have let's say a c note, then you need to load that to the c note in your sampler and base the rest off that, most samplers have a way to do it. Even if you can't do that, unless there's something screwy going on, whatever note your sampler put the note on should be an even amount of semitones up or down from where it's supposed to be. just play the original sample and hit the notes until you find the same one. If we know what daw or sampler you are using, you can get some much better advice from the people that use that regularly. and as far as speeding up the wobble, that's because the sampler is changing the pitch as well as the sound, it doesn't work like pitch-shifting does. You'd have to do multi samples, which is a pain in the ass, or sample the notes without the wobbles, and add them on afterwards.

Sometimes i'll throw a piano just to search for the key.. also GVST comes handy sometimes with midrange material(http://www.gvst.co.uk/gtune.htm)
For difficult inharmonic material I use an spectral analyzer coupled with this pretty handy chart:


If you are using ableton you can use Spectrum which is much more hassle free..

Sometimes it's very hard to guess a key if the frequency is really low or doesnt have harmonics.. no matter how "good" your ears are..

Edit: Also.. If you have inharmonic material with some pitch shifting business going on you can use something like autotune or melodyne to correct it.

Mine always lands on C3 no matter what note I play, I use reason not sure about other programs though ???/

if you're really really having trouble you could try a guitar tuner plugin, im sure theres some free ones

Manic Harmonic wrote:I don't know what sampler you're using, but if you have let's say a c note, then you need to load that to the c note in your sampler and base the rest off that, most samplers have a way to do it. Even if you can't do that, unless there's something screwy going on, whatever note your sampler put the note on should be an even amount of semitones up or down from where it's supposed to be. just play the original sample and hit the notes until you find the same one. If we know what daw or sampler you are using, you can get some much better advice from the people that use that regularly. and as far as speeding up the wobble, that's because the sampler is changing the pitch as well as the sound, it doesn't work like pitch-shifting does. You'd have to do multi samples, which is a pain in the ass, or sample the notes without the wobbles, and add them on afterwards.

I'm using Ableton's Simpler. I can't say I like it much..... So how do I load my sample note to the same note in the sampler?

FuzionDubstep wrote:Mine always lands on C3 no matter what note I play, I use reason not sure about other programs though ???/

are you sticking the sample in the NNXT?

cos you can change the route note, just can't remember of the top of my head.

When I resample I play the bass line or lead or whatever in midi, bounce to audio and then do the effecting and such to the whole audio clip without using Simpler. You could try that. Or if you really want to use Simpler, I would suggest doing your automation-especially wobs-after loading into Simpler. The reason your wobs speed up is because the way Simpler changes pitch is by playing the sample faster or slower, so the overall sound, as well as the speed of the automation could change drastically with the pitch.

As far as finding the original note, you could keep your midi clip and refer back to the piano roll to see what note it is.

Hope this helps

Nyyx wrote:Oh and lets say there was a wobble or something in the clip, the higher the note on the keyboard that I play, the faster the wobble. I'm about to shit my pants at this point.

That's the point. The wobble won't be consistent over the whole range. It will sound like the original only on that single key. As you pitch it up or down, the wobble will speed up or down, this itself brings character when resampling.

If you want your lfo to be fixed, add it after resampling.

normally when i re-sample i name them based on what they are... as in "F# stab 1/12" or "C# wub 1/8." then i drop them in a drum rack, or whatever sampler your daw has. then you can save the rack, and have all your samples clearly laid out and named... accessible from any set.

Ok thank you for all the info guys. Very helpful, but I still have not been able to find my original note in the sampler. I compared the original note with the one in the sampler after transposing it endless, and nothing matched. I feel as though this shouldn't be so complicated...

I add a Sylenth1 tab in the arrangement view then drag the sample into it, play and see what note are hit.