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I saw Skream post this on his Facebook page..
I tried to read what people commented, but it's just way too frustrating reading through one-sided arguments and fan rage!
What do you guys think?
http://www.blagsound.com/blagblog/the-d ... bstep.blag

Edit: Ps. I am not agreeing with this to any extent..
I have my own opinions, and I believe that things must change for new things to be created!
Sub-genre's etc.. Just wanted to make that clear

Care to share what he said?
I can`t access the page at work.

He pretty much ranted on about how american producers are taking dubstep and destroying it, the likes of skrillex and excision and such he says.
Then he goes on about how it'll get worse once artists like rihanna put teh wobblez into her tunez...
Pretty stupid IMO.

AcidRat wrote:rihanna put teh wobblez into her tunez

Here's the article word for word (just copy pasted)

The Death of Dubstep
Posted by Mark Doogan on June 25, 2011
"So it’s been taking the world by storm for a while now. Dubstep is everywhere. We all know about it, many of us love it, but there’s a massive problem brewing……the yanks have got hold of it!

At the moment there is a wave of American producers coming into Dubstep from other genres. These producers are flooding the genre with horrible mid range wobbled melodic shit, they have an addiction to the almighty ‘filth’. It’s gored-out mosh music as opposed to dance music. Not to say these beatmakers don’t have talent. Take Skrillex for example, some of his intro’s are rare, the melodic trancey intro for ‘Scary Monsters & Nice Sprites’ is extremely well produced and is something not a lot of artists can do. His production is tight…….then comes the drop. The song turns from a catchy, trancey rhythm into a violent racket of overwhelming wobbles.
Skrillex

Skrillex - Zane Lowe's gay emo brother.

His sound after the drop is plain and simple and there is a fairly long list of American producers I could say the same about. The bass is growly and reminds me of nails on a chalkboard, it’s just all a little silly and a million miles away from the garage and dub inspired scenes here in Britain that we all know and love.

……and this is what we are fighting for.

The yanks are generally giving the genre a bad name, like they do with everything. No wonder I keep on hearing the words ‘The Death of Dubstep’. Hearing shit from producers such as Skrillex, Excision and Figure is heartbreaking. They are butchering the sound of Dubstep and calling it Dubstep. It’s like sticking your cock in Vanessa Phelps and telling everyone you fucked Shakira.

Skrillex, released his first EP on the Mau5trap label, that helped him gain notoriety very very quickly. Due to the backing of the Mau5 machine all 8 tracks off his first EP were in Beatports top 10. It’s a great achievement but if the core beatport user base (which hasn’t really acknowledged Dubstep that much as yet) is going to finally acknowledge the genre through an artist like Skrillex and his peers, then I worry for the future. The music being produced stateside is doing a dangerous disservice to the genre, to me it feels like the exact opposite to where it all began on the streets of Croydon ten years ago when garage flaked out and evolved into dark garage, which eventually became dubstep.

Now, there could be some producers over in Uncle Sam’s land that don’t produce this terrible gorestep. I don’t know. In fact there are bound to be, but I’m going on the producers that have gained reputations the quickest and are big names over there. Now I’m not picking on these guys, they have found a way to be successful and have hit a chord with Americans between the ages of 16 and 24. They are mad for it over there. Unfortunately they are not mad for the sound us Brits went mad for. I know I’d rather be wanked off by Freddie Kruger wearing a wire brush round his palm, than go out and listen to that trash.

I keep hearing people say that the genre needs to evolve, they are right, it does, every genre does to an extent, especially a relatively new one such as Dubstep. To have longevity, evolution of a sound is a must. The problem is that there is a difference between evolution and perversion. Dubstep is going through both processes at once and the results couldn’t be further apart.

It’s definitely going to be interesting to see where we are heading. This violent pony that Skrillex and co. are producing is not going to go away. Not while the record companies have these money making machines on their hands. Capitalism will rear its ugly head and if they are making money, that’s it and if I’m honest, aslong as the sound doesn’t start influencing young, talented producers here in the UK, I don’t care. There is however, a problem in identifying what dubstep is these days. To me it will always be the garage induced, reggae dub deliciousness we have been hearing from the Benga’s and Skream’s of the world for a few years now. Unfortunately to some, it includes sounds that are so far apart from what I and many others perceive it as. At the end of the day, difference in opinion is what makes the world go round.

Dubstep started in London, in Britain. No it’s not dead, its just dead in the states. In the states, people go to dubstep raves and people die, here, people come to party and be proud of the sound we gave the world. It’s just unfortunate the Americans have butchered it just like everything else they get their hands on."

Gurnumsbug wrote:but there’s a massive problem brewing……the yanks have got hold of it!

Translation - I have made a sweeping generalisation about music coming from a specific country

Gurnumsbug wrote:Now, there could be some producers over in Uncle Sam’s land that don’t produce this terrible gorestep. I don’t know.

Translation - my sweeping generalisation isn't back up with any real facts as I'm only taking the more commercially known producers as an example, and have failed to do any follow up research to qualify this statement.

Gurnumsbug wrote:TL;DR

Translation - person who wrote article appears to be a twat.

I couldn't agree more wub!
Even Skream himself quoted "The writer seems very very biased"

That was pretty much written just to provoke an emotional response so people spread it around more. I'm an American and I HATE what that stupid music is doing to the scene but you cant really blame an entire country lol. Falty DL is from over here, Lorn is, so are plenty more that don't make horrible generic filth. Although nearly everyone I encounter here that likes dubstep is listening to nothing but that filth shit so idk... I ask them if they like digital mystikz and they've never heard of them. The scene here is definitely fucked up, I just ignore it and write music. It's pretty hard for me to get a gig cause I'm the guy who plays that "weird stuff." Pretty fucking depressing...

Same with drum and bass here to be honest. Everyone is playing nothing but drumstep now.

Also, I've come upon something I've never seen before. It used to be when you told someone you were a DJ they would say something stupid like "oh...like techno??" now more and more I'm getting "oh, like deadmau5 and skrillex?"

the ideas in this article are about as fresh as the tunes hes talking about. noone gives a fuck - listen to what you like and leave others be. why don't people get this

"complain about filthy drops then direct people right to them" = i don't really care about dubstep, i've just realized that this is a sore point for people and will get me lots of attention if i write about it in a contentious enough way

aquemini wrote:the ideas in this article are about as fresh as the tunes hes talking about. noone gives a fuck - listen to what you like and leave others be. why don't people get this

This.

Dont we have that exact same argument like 2.3 times a week on here??lol.

RIP Dubstep, it's all over lolz Back to the real British sound.



FOOKIN MINT!

Thanks Gurnumsbug

Certainly an overly biased write-up.

this is from a concert i was at last month... (flux and doctor p)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQKyttleub0

4500 kids going crazy.. its hard to argue those numbers and while im sure alot of those kids came into the dubstep scene from skrillex it doesnt matter... some of them are going to diversify what they listen to and get into the more underground aspects of dubstep...

change the damn genre name then, or nvm scratch that its called brostep lol, anyways, i dont know why people flip out over this shit, "dubstep" is just a word and what it is lableled as, when it all comes down its all music no matter what dumbass name it has, some producer produced it from scratch, and he has an audience that likes what he makes, music is music, it makes the world go round.

shitty article, comments are even worse

Us yanks invented house music then the stupid French had to come along and filter it and add stupid midrange robot vocals and sidechain compression. They ruin everything. Kissing. Fries. Everything!

Bored, boring, done to death topic, move on.

There are shit producers in every country.....

Get over it and listen to what you like.

GET OVER IT