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No Homo: Hip Hop's Last Taboo

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:41 pm
by soul dead
http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/b012kllk/

reasonably interesting programme, although most of the rappers interviewed say very similar things.

Re: No Homo: Hip Hop's Last Taboo

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:09 pm
by fluffattack
Haven't watched it yet, but thought of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsM4bI63iaQ :P

Sounds interesting, though. Hip hop (and football) seems to still be ridiculously homophobic...

Re: No Homo: Hip Hop's Last Taboo

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:16 pm
by soul dead
yeah they interview the ppl from that record label.

having listened to the programme in some ways the bigger problem than the homophobia is the condescending attitude of those who consider themselves non homophobic. pretty much yeah it's fine just don't talk about it lol.

Re: No Homo: Hip Hop's Last Taboo

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:17 pm
by pkay
i think hip hops last taboo is being a british rapper

mean that in all seriousness

Re: No Homo: Hip Hop's Last Taboo

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:18 pm
by soul dead
pkay wrote:i think hip hops last taboo is being a british rapper
definitely. slick rick and mf doom have found it impossible to make a name for themselves whilst dizzee rascal was never able to get ugk to feature on his album, or el-p to release it.

Re: No Homo: Hip Hop's Last Taboo

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:19 pm
by wormcode
The "no homo" thing always reminded me of the "batty bwoy" bash tunes that were so common in dancehall. Made it hard to enjoy the music when they openly sing about hating or even killing gay people. Some top dancehall people came together and tried to stamp out those type of songs but it's still around. I don't want to start a religious debate, but it's obviously pretty much the only source left of anti-gay beliefs in our society.

Re: No Homo: Hip Hop's Last Taboo

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:20 pm
by wormcode
pkay wrote:i think hip hops last taboo is being a british rapper

mean that in all seriousness
Edited out that part about English rappers in the charts haha, I was about to remind you how huge Tinie Tempah is in the states now. :6:

Re: No Homo: Hip Hop's Last Taboo

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:24 pm
by pkay
soul dead wrote:
pkay wrote:i think hip hops last taboo is being a british rapper
definitely. slick rick and mf doom have found it impossible to make a name for themselves whilst dizzee rascal was never able to get ugk to feature on his album, or el-p to release it.
You've listed 3 artists over the course of 30+ years. And I'm sure UGK got paid or got points

Don't mean to get you to flag waving but I think it's a bigger issue in hip hop that the majority of hip hop isn't open to outsiders. Hard enough for a white american to break in let alone a more white dominated scene and what americans view as a 'softer' scene in general. Same with Chineese, Japanese, Canadians, etc.

Re: No Homo: Hip Hop's Last Taboo

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:25 pm
by soul dead
out of the vast number of british rappers I've listened to (how many have you actually heard pkay?) I can say without a doubt that there are many more interesting and relevant than the dancing mouthpieces american labels peddle to women and children.

that is, however, not the point of this thread.

Re: No Homo: Hip Hop's Last Taboo

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:27 pm
by pkay
wormcode wrote:
pkay wrote:i think hip hops last taboo is being a british rapper

mean that in all seriousness
Edited out that part about English rappers in the charts haha, I was about to remind you how huge Tinie Tempah is in the states now. :6:

actually edited it out to avoid the argument about america isn't the only place hip hop exists despite our dominance in consumption and production.

you live in austin too... only tune i've ever heard out and about from Tinie Tempah is the one with wiz khalifah and thats only there because of wiz

even so its not like dallas or houston is playing him... only reason hes getting play in austin is because the city is pasty and the college girls love that hip-pop shit

Re: No Homo: Hip Hop's Last Taboo

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:30 pm
by pkay
soul dead wrote:out of the vast number of british rappers I've listened to (how many have you actually heard pkay?) I can say without a doubt that there are many more interesting and relevant than the dancing mouthpieces american labels peddle to women and children.

that is, however, not the point of this thread.
You're against women enjoying hip hop?

Re: No Homo: Hip Hop's Last Taboo

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:30 pm
by Mr Hyde
pkay wrote:i think hip hops last taboo is being a british rapper

mean that in all seriousness

you need to ease down the anti-uk talk in every thread...starting to sound a bit racist- it won't help you deal with your inadequacies any better trying to put down other groups of people. hatered breeds hatred, try for some positive attention!

mean that in all seriousness

:6:

Re: No Homo: Hip Hop's Last Taboo

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:31 pm
by wormcode
pkay wrote:
wormcode wrote:
pkay wrote:i think hip hops last taboo is being a british rapper

mean that in all seriousness
Edited out that part about English rappers in the charts haha, I was about to remind you how huge Tinie Tempah is in the states now. :6:

actually edited it out to avoid the argument about america isn't the only place hip hop exists despite our dominance in consumption and production.

you live in austin too... only tune i've ever heard out and about from Tinie Tempah is the one with wiz khalifah and thats only there because of wiz

even so its not like dallas or houston is playing him... only reason hes getting play in austin is because the city is pasty.
He performed on The View! hahahaha
Yeah I dunno about radio play honestly, I haven't heard US radio in a long time besides a couple of university stations and they'd be more likely to play him too. Honestly never heard Wiz myself either.

Re: No Homo: Hip Hop's Last Taboo

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:32 pm
by pkay
Mr Hyde wrote:
pkay wrote:i think hip hops last taboo is being a british rapper

mean that in all seriousness

you need to ease down the anti-uk talk in every thread...starting to sound a bit racist- it won't help you deal with your inadequacies any better trying to put down other groups of people. hatered breeds hatred, try for some positive attention!

mean that in all seriousness

:6:

I'm fucking with soul dead.... who is an obvious alias of an anti-american friend of ours.

Re: No Homo: Hip Hop's Last Taboo

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:32 pm
by pkay
wormcode wrote:
pkay wrote:
wormcode wrote:
pkay wrote:i think hip hops last taboo is being a british rapper

mean that in all seriousness
Edited out that part about English rappers in the charts haha, I was about to remind you how huge Tinie Tempah is in the states now. :6:

actually edited it out to avoid the argument about america isn't the only place hip hop exists despite our dominance in consumption and production.

you live in austin too... only tune i've ever heard out and about from Tinie Tempah is the one with wiz khalifah and thats only there because of wiz

even so its not like dallas or houston is playing him... only reason hes getting play in austin is because the city is pasty.
He performed on The View! hahahaha
Yeah I dunno about radio play honestly, I haven't heard US radio in a long time besides a couple of university stations and they'd be more likely to play him too.

nothing screams true hip hop like barbara walters and whoopie goldberg :p

Re: No Homo: Hip Hop's Last Taboo

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:33 pm
by soul dead
you're not fucking with me lol.

Re: No Homo: Hip Hop's Last Taboo

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:34 pm
by pkay
soul dead wrote:you're not fucking with me lol.
then why you mad bro?

also what happend to your last screen name?

Re: No Homo: Hip Hop's Last Taboo

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:35 pm
by soul dead
because your subtle and deft trolling skills have rendered my well informed opinions on uk rap completely obsolete. all I can do is bow to your inferior knowledge and hope you have it within your heart to forgive me.

Re: No Homo: Hip Hop's Last Taboo

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:37 pm
by pkay
soul dead wrote:because your subtle and deft trolling skills have rendered my well informed opinions on uk rap completely obsolete. all I can do is bow to your inferior knowledge and hope you have it within your heart to forgive me.

sorry you're mad

Re: No Homo: Hip Hop's Last Taboo

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:39 pm
by Mr Hyde
pkay wrote:
Mr Hyde wrote:
pkay wrote:i think hip hops last taboo is being a british rapper

mean that in all seriousness

you need to ease down the anti-uk talk in every thread...starting to sound a bit racist- it won't help you deal with your inadequacies any better trying to put down other groups of people. hatered breeds hatred, try for some positive attention!

mean that in all seriousness

:6:

I'm fucking with soul dead.... who is an obvious alias of an anti-american friend of ours.
ah right. not a bad idea, i might get myself a few accounts going so i can big up my tunes and argue with myself.