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How are You Getting Movement in Your Basslines?

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:55 am
by nowhere
Once you have a sound you like what what parameters are everyone automating to get the bassline moving other then the cutoff.

Re: How are You Getting Movement in Your Basslines?

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:56 am
by ChadDub
I modulate my alpacas

Re: How are You Getting Movement in Your Basslines?

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:01 am
by Mannyyyyy
I split my basslines like low mid and hi. the mid range is usually notched a lot and also has a flanged from a send and a phaser my top end gets stereo imaged to get a lot more stereo movement and feel but that's the basics mostly I automate everything that changes the sound in some way like for example my phaser feedback and dry wet knob, distortion types on camalphats. cutoff on notches. I automate an eq that is boosted very sharp to give it so weird resonance. etc. but like I said this is the basics

Re: How are You Getting Movement in Your Basslines?

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:10 am
by Jacob15728
Mannyyyyy wrote:I split my basslines like low mid and hi. the mid range is usually notched a lot and also has a flanged from a send and a phaser my top end gets stereo imaged to get a lot more stereo movement and feel but that's the basics mostly I automate everything that changes the sound in some way like for example my phaser feedback and dry wet knob, distortion types on camalphats. cutoff on notches. I automate an eq that is boosted very sharp to give it so weird resonance. etc. but like I said this is the basics
How are you splitting the basslines? Are they just three separate channels layered on top of each other? If so how do you get the automation to line up from channel to channel?

Re: How are You Getting Movement in Your Basslines?

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:21 am
by Mannyyyyy
Jacob15728 wrote:
Mannyyyyy wrote:I split my basslines like low mid and hi. the mid range is usually notched a lot and also has a flanged from a send and a phaser my top end gets stereo imaged to get a lot more stereo movement and feel but that's the basics mostly I automate everything that changes the sound in some way like for example my phaser feedback and dry wet knob, distortion types on camalphats. cutoff on notches. I automate an eq that is boosted very sharp to give it so weird resonance. etc. but like I said this is the basics
How are you splitting the basslines? Are they just three separate channels layered on top of each other? If so how do you get the automation to line up from channel to channel?

most of the time I split through multiband compressors in logic the only the I layer is when I have my reeses done and I'm working on the song and I'm intertwining filters togetherfor example one layer is highpassed and the other layer is low passed and mostly go and make the filters interact with each other.

Re: How are You Getting Movement in Your Basslines?

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:47 am
by RandoRando
Somebody needs to read the stickies.

Re: How are You Getting Movement in Your Basslines?

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:27 am
by legend4ry
Portamento on the sub - the only movement you need.

Re: How are You Getting Movement in Your Basslines?

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:00 pm
by nitz
legend4ry wrote:Portamento on the sub - the only movement you need.
:z:

Re: How are You Getting Movement in Your Basslines?

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:02 pm
by JFK
nitz wrote:
legend4ry wrote:Portamento on the sub - the only movement you need.
:z:
Bit boring isnt it?

Re: How are You Getting Movement in Your Basslines?

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:04 pm
by legend4ry
Not really? Not much you can do to make under 80hz sounds appealing apart from creating good rhythm with your notes.


The guy said bass line not leads/mid range.

Re: How are You Getting Movement in Your Basslines?

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:57 pm
by JFK
legend4ry wrote:Not really? Not much you can do to make under 80hz sounds appealing apart from creating good rhythm with your notes.


The guy said bass line not leads/mid range.
True. Im willing to bet that he meant midrange though.

Re: How are You Getting Movement in Your Basslines?

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:14 pm
by ascent
all about the sub.. usually have a volume lfo on it or portamento as legend4ry said..

Re: How are You Getting Movement in Your Basslines?

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:19 pm
by drooka
somtimes ill have a sine with some frequency modulation on it, nothing too crazy, just enough to make the bass more interesting in the lower frequencies. i'll make sure to filter it out pretty low so that theres not a whole lot above 150 hz going on in my bass. once ive got it sounding nice, ill automate the modulation amount so that i could move the bass between pure sine sub and my modulated bass. i've had some success in creating some pretty interesting movement at the low end by doing this. sometimes its pretty subtle depending on the amount of fm you like, but sometimes subtle is all you need to keep the ears interested.

(using sytrus btw, sure you could find ways of doing something similar in most other synths)

Re: How are You Getting Movement in Your Basslines?

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:38 pm
by AJGR
sorry to be splitting hairs but by automation do you also mean modulation?

portamento, pitch & volume envelopes, pitchbend seem to be the ones i use the most.

Re: How are You Getting Movement in Your Basslines?

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:28 pm
by nowhere
thanks all these have been helpful. To be clear, I am talking about midrange and the question was directed at how to give my "wobbles" if you will a more organic sense of movement.

Re: How are You Getting Movement in Your Basslines?

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:25 pm
by Ldizzy
JFK : 1 / correct nomenclature : 0

OP : i like how jack beats use resonance alongside cutoff... see their Little Secrets remix...

i also like slight pitch instabilities.. which i manually draw alongside my actual notes... just really short half tones everywhere to give it more expression ... i swear it makes a difference if ur patient enough... a friend of mine used to do that for his leads and i was always like HOW DO U DO THAT trying to tweak the vibrato .. its like manual vibrato...

im also really really fond of SLIGHTLY automating the portamento/glide knob of ur favourite synth once ur done with the phrases u want to play thru ur tunes...

its ALL in the DETAILS..

Re: How are You Getting Movement in Your Basslines?

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:25 am
by Atac
chorus, distortion, notch filter, repeat.

Re: How are You Getting Movement in Your Basslines?

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:47 am
by SKITSTEP
Hope this helps

Re: How are You Getting Movement in Your Basslines?

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:12 am
by Ldizzy
SKITSTEP wrote:Hope this helps
hardly related to what op's question was.

Re: How are You Getting Movement in Your Basslines?

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:50 am
by RandoRando
Ldizzy wrote:
SKITSTEP wrote:Hope this helps
hardly related to what op's question was.
hes been :spam: ing it on every midrange related thread