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told someone god doesn't exist. was told that because nature is so beautiful and how complex everything is, it proves god's existence. I know this is false but how may I prove so? also, because we are conscious and animals aren't (aha) god exists? another proposed statement from the same individual. what would I say? should I be completely baffled by this person's response?

should I be like this right now?


or like this?

be like this



and stop worrying about it

I'd be like this


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(the thumbs up is not in agreement though)

I would just agree to disagree. No point in getting in a circular argument since it doesn't seem like either of you will be swayed.

A. If the world is so beautiful and complex how can you explain it so simply that someone better than you snapped their fingers and it just appeared?

B. Animals have consciousness. What a dumb thing to say.

Ask them about the darker side of nature, then when they say that proves the devil exist, say that god must of created the devil, they will agree, and say some bullshit, then ask why as he allowed him to keep up his evil acts, and not killed him.

He will be fucked.

Show him the film Antichrist from Lars von Trier. Nature is "evil" and ugly too, more often than it's beautiful.

Plus he will probably hate you for making him watch it and stop talking to you for a while. Win win.

Nature is so complicated no one could have designed it, not even a flying spaghetti monster.

Where's Cityzen? I see potential for arguments in this thread.

arguing about god is like arguing about father christmas

you're never going to see any actual proof - just defending or attacking belief

jugo wrote:arguing about god is like arguing about father christmas

No shit man, they exist in your mind up until you're 8, unless you're a total fucking mong.

Just go have a few beers with him, no point in arguing over faith.

3za wrote:

jugo wrote:arguing about god is like arguing about father christmas

No shit man, they exist in your mind up until you're 8, unless you're a total fucking mong.

Exactly. I believe in god (in the form of higher power), but I dont think it's some white haired chap pointing at the sky. I think god is a lot more complex and personal than that and I came to this conclusion by myself, not because of any religious belief. Its just something I know to be true, it's self evident. I dont, however, expect anyone else to or care whether anyone else shares my view.

AllNightDayDream wrote:
B. Animals have consciousness. What a dumb thing to say.

I think were the only animal thats conscious of its own mortality, though I dont know how you'd prove that.

butter man wrote:

AllNightDayDream wrote:
B. Animals have consciousness. What a dumb thing to say.

I think were the only animal thats conscious of its own mortality, though I dont know how you'd prove that.

So gazelles run from cheetahs just for the fuck of it?

If you'd ever read HItchhikers Guide you'd know that mice run the entire universe.

jo I do exist, don't doubt me again, you WILL get punished

i would tell them it's a little preposterous for adults to have imaginary friends.

i don't want this person as a friend really just want to tear him to shreds with something that will dumbfound him. would look into some shit later today

Hypefiend wrote:i don't want this person as a friend really just want to tear him to shreds with something that will dumbfound him. would look into some shit later today

wow what a nice guy you are.