HOW CAN I GET THIS "PUSH PULL EFFECT" IN MY BREAKDOWNS?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:26 pm
by WassaWobbles
OK I've been hitting this shit as hard as i can and my music is getting to a point where i want to release it to everyone but the one thing i cant understand is this "Push Pull Effect". Seems like after the bass drop you hear the synth raise up or down ? Is that a pitch or velocity raise ? Either Way the main thing is i want the alternation of the wobbles to be secure. I started re-sampling but so far it sounds a minor bit better. Im wondering if there's some type of automation im missing like a filter cut off or env mod or something or other. Please if someone could help me understand id much appreciate it. Thanks
Re: HOW CAN I GET THIS "PUSH PULL EFFECT" IN MY BREAKDOWNS?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:30 pm
by WassaWobbles
BTW I HAVE TONS OF COMBINATOR PATCHES AND SOUNDS AROUND $) GIGS IF ANYONE WANTS OR COULD REALLY HELP ME SOLVE THIS PROBLEM ?
Re: HOW CAN I GET THIS "PUSH PULL EFFECT" IN MY BREAKDOWNS?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:44 pm
by SunkLo
I don't think anyone really has a clue as to what you're talking about. Be more articulate, post an example of what you're trying to achieve, etc.
Re: HOW CAN I GET THIS "PUSH PULL EFFECT" IN MY BREAKDOWNS?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:49 pm
by WassaWobbles
Im fairly new to this forum so uploading is going to take me time. Mainly its when im switching wobbles because i use like 4-5 in a breakdown i want them to flow as they alternate to one another. Does that help ?
Re: HOW CAN I GET THIS "PUSH PULL EFFECT" IN MY BREAKDOWNS?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:54 pm
by SunkLo
If you automate the rate control on the lfo they should transition smoothly. If not, try resampling them and lining them up so the filter movements are smooth. If all else fails, automate the filter by hand.
Re: HOW CAN I GET THIS "PUSH PULL EFFECT" IN MY BREAKDOWNS?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:56 pm
by WassaWobbles
Im going to try that now i just thought there was a effect on doing so. Like a env mod on the attack or pitch or velocity. Also do you know how to get the synth hits to sound like there being pitched up and down? Sad to say like when skrillex goes in to his BD's ?
Re: HOW CAN I GET THIS "PUSH PULL EFFECT" IN MY BREAKDOWNS?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:58 pm
by Teknicyde
Are you talking about the pumping sound from sidechain compression?
Re: HOW CAN I GET THIS "PUSH PULL EFFECT" IN MY BREAKDOWNS?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:05 pm
by WassaWobbles
No i understand side chaining. More like when the synth hits and sounds like the pitch is being slightly raised and lowered before the wobble starts.
Re: HOW CAN I GET THIS "PUSH PULL EFFECT" IN MY BREAKDOWNS?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:25 pm
by .onelove.
Portamento/glide?
Re: HOW CAN I GET THIS "PUSH PULL EFFECT" IN MY BREAKDOWNS?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:05 pm
by WassaWobbles
I know what portamento is whats the glide
Re: HOW CAN I GET THIS "PUSH PULL EFFECT" IN MY BREAKDOWNS?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:23 pm
by ChadDub
Dude just link us to a video of a song that has an example of what you're talking about.
Re: HOW CAN I GET THIS "PUSH PULL EFFECT" IN MY BREAKDOWNS?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:33 pm
by atticuh
LFO modulated to pitch
Re: HOW CAN I GET THIS "PUSH PULL EFFECT" IN MY BREAKDOWNS?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:34 pm
by brettheaslewood
threads where no given example, and people trying to explain what they want, but failing - fail.
Re: HOW CAN I GET THIS "PUSH PULL EFFECT" IN MY BREAKDOWNS?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:46 pm
by WassaWobbles
When I get home I'm going to make a link to see if you understand clearer
Re: HOW CAN I GET THIS "PUSH PULL EFFECT" IN MY BREAKDOWNS?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:49 pm
by dalvare1
atticuh wrote:LFO modulated to pitch
this is what i was going to post
Re: HOW CAN I GET THIS "PUSH PULL EFFECT" IN MY BREAKDOWNS?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:58 pm
by oWLinDaylight
Is the effect your talking about the one used at 0:55. The way it drops then gets pulled back is what i was picturing
Re: HOW CAN I GET THIS "PUSH PULL EFFECT" IN MY BREAKDOWNS?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:42 pm
by WassaWobbles
Yes Exactly Those synths rising up and down in between the bass lines
Re: HOW CAN I GET THIS "PUSH PULL EFFECT" IN MY BREAKDOWNS?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:48 pm
by WassaWobbles
Is this the automation atticue was talking about?
Re: HOW CAN I GET THIS "PUSH PULL EFFECT" IN MY BREAKDOWNS?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:57 pm
by oWLinDaylight
WassaWobbles wrote:Is this the automation atticue was talking about?
Ya I think so. As the lfo is lowering the pitch it gives it that slowdown effect, what I think of as the pushing. Then when the lfo pulls the the pitch back up you get that pulling effect, kind of like slowing down and speeding up a record with your finger. Of course that's all in theory since I've never actually tried it.
Re: HOW CAN I GET THIS "PUSH PULL EFFECT" IN MY BREAKDOWNS?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:40 pm
by WassaWobbles
im going to try it and get back at you thanks for the info everyone im going to post some stuff up immediately as long as it sounds clear