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The Danish house-group Djuma Soundsystem has just received a staggering fine of about 87500 £ for using a sample which they had cleared originally. Seeing the rapid rise in popularity of the track after Trentemøller had done a remix of it, the rights keeper tried to find a reason to sue them anyway. He discovered that the name of the song which they had sampled, had been misspelled on the contract which had granted them the rights to use the sample. The judge showed a complete lack of knowledge into what electronic music is and that is critical in this case. Djuma Soundsystem had originally used about 10 seconds of the sample, but because the judge did not understand that the sample had been looped a certain amount of times, they were fined for using 69 seconds of the track. Djuma Soundsystem can no longer be credited for writing the track. The track is apparently now made by Les Djinns, even though whoever that is, has never put into work into the production of the track. Nothing is safe anymore then... Even when a sample is cleared there is still a way to get fucked. I am truely disgusted...

Danish source:
http://www.information.dk/280309

Original track:


Sampled from:


Trentemøller remix:

i've personally heard of at least 4 of these lawsuits recently, and all using small 4 or 5 sec movie samples, that were not cleared. hollywood is going after just about anyone lately....

seckle wrote:i've personally heard of at least 4 of these lawsuits recently, and all using small 4 or 5 sec movie samples, that were not cleared. hollywood is going after just about anyone lately....

That's most of the opening tunes on Forensics' Blue Moon mix fucked then

stnuc

On one side, as a producer and consumer of EDM I feel for the artists. It’s not that big a deal. Should be allowed.

On the other hand, copyright law is copyright law. If I make something and later somebody else uses it for personal gain, they need to pay up.

But then as a producer and consumer of EDM I feel for the artists. It’s not that big a deal…

On the other hand…

But then…

On…

there's dozens of cases in hip hop, where someone samples something, doesn't clear it, gets sued and doesn't get any credits afterwards. dr.dre was sued for $500million over the indian sample in this track, which his record company did not clear properly.

story here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addictive_(song)

original sample


truth hurts "addictive" dr.dre /dj quik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiJu58dDKJw

Sad !
Always loved that track and for me it will always be from Djuma Soundsystem !

tomre wrote:Sad !
Always loved that track and for me it will always be from Djuma Soundsystem !

This is sickening, and like the O.P. mentioned, it comes entirely from judges being oblivious to the way modern music works.

Only a matter of time until they start sueing dilla in his grave.

I read somewhere that if sampling at some point is considered an artform in it self, it would be legal to sample anything.
In Denmark at least. IDK if that goes for every country.

It's all about the money :/
I sincerely hope Denmark will change that someday

Also is had to be added that Djuma Soundsystem only got 15 minutes instead of 45 to present their case because the judge was going on vacation

Seriously bullshit

when the prosecutor's alleged contract fraud succeeded, penalty shouldve been ruled as a 10 second use

wub wrote:

seckle wrote:i've personally heard of at least 4 of these lawsuits recently, and all using small 4 or 5 sec movie samples, that were not cleared. hollywood is going after just about anyone lately....

That's most of the opening tunes on Forensics' Blue Moon mix fucked then

plus the entire juke scene

I don't get why you'd sue for sampling. That's like suing for using a piano or something, no? Maybe not in a legal sense, but at least in a moral sense...

Covers even. Why the fuck are people so fucking slimey?

zerbaman wrote:I don't get why you'd sue for sampling. That's like suing for using a piano or something, no? Maybe not in a legal sense, but at least in a moral sense...

Covers even. Why the fuck are people so fucking slimey?

It's all about money. Everyone wants their share.

Yeah I figured. but I don't see how fair it is that they're just hammering some people who just make a few tunes in their bedrooms in their spare time.

exfox wrote:

wub wrote:

seckle wrote:i've personally heard of at least 4 of these lawsuits recently, and all using small 4 or 5 sec movie samples, that were not cleared. hollywood is going after just about anyone lately....

That's most of the opening tunes on Forensics' Blue Moon mix fucked then

plus the entire juke scene

lets just hope they filed the paperwork for all those 808 kicks

i suppose this is why its good to release things on white label.... sure it costs a little bit more, but atleast you dont have to worry (so much) about getting done over for the use of a tiny sample

so what happens if you bootleg something then? im pretty clueless towards this, bootlegging a tune, not sampling it, just doing your own version of the same tune without using any of the original samples/instruments....